Wouldn't the authorizing signature appear also, like on the Decosta document?
Posted on 06/29/2008 11:18:17 PM PDT by Kevmo
Could it be a case of much ado about nothing? Doug Ross thinks so. Questions have been raised about the copy posted on the Daily Kos site bore a state seal embossed.
..one of Pamela Geller's readers did some heavy-lifting with Photoshop and discovered what appears to be an embossed seal on the back of Obama's certificate.
Ross writes:
I was startled because I had carefully reviewed the image weeks ago and not seen any clue of a signature or embossed seal. I spent some time this morning playing with various graphics settings until I was able to tease a similar image out of the scan.
It certainly appears to be legitimate.
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/06/the-missing-oba.html
The "Missing" Obama Birth Certificate Seal UPDATE: Mitchell Langbert has written a Freedom of Information Act Request for Barack Obama's Birth Certificate
I know there is a lot of controversy and back and forth on absence of an official seal on Obama's birth certificate. Atlas reader Joe aka Jointhehunt5Yaser has been blowing up the birth certificate (lifted off Obama's Fight the Smear site) and there is a seal image there.
On the right the Patricia Decosta Hawaiian Birth certificate
Joe wrote me:
I flipped it over, cut it and put it next to the seal from Patrica Decosta birth certificate. I think it is a seal, if not, for sure it is an image of something. I used an older version on adobe and came up with the image. Do you know anyone who is a pro in finding hidden imaging's like this? Because if it is a real seal where is the signature stamp? I couldn't find any signature stamped on it like the decosta certificate has. This is an image of something and a pro can get it more visible.
Using adobe photo shop Joe used overlay 9% black then went over the area where the date is stamped on lower middle. and a image started to appear above the date.
So I used - filter, stylize, find edges.
An image that could be an official seal appeared.
And while the Israel Insider opined, "Nothing else explains why Obama's campaign refused to release the original paper document, to make this distracting controversy go way"
Because Hollyfield is right about one thing:
"If this document is forged, a U.S. senator and his presidential campaign have perpetrated a vast, long-term fraud."
U.S. citizens who have written to Israel Insider or have posted on the Internet are not satisfied. Ordinary people are compelled to produce certified paper birth certificates to get a passport or a driver's license. Why, people are asking, doesn't Obama needed to show one to run for President?
But I believe the Obama campaign would deliberately keep such a question alive to diminish the veracity of the real scandals Obama is guilty of (Rezko, Auchi, Wright, Nation of Islam, Malley, Powers, Odinga, corruption, lies etc.)
The Israel Insider has another article on the lack of veracity of Obama's birth certificate based on the absence of a seal, but it's there.
As Obama stonewalls on uncertified birth certificate, official doubts mount Israel Insider Barack Obama has claimed in writing to have a valid printed document: In the first chapter of his book Dreams From My Father, describing his origins, he wrote about finding a local Hawaiian newspaper article about his Kenyan father: "I discovered this article, folded away among my birth certificate and old vaccination forms, when I was in high school."
So where is that birth certificate? It got lost? The dog ate it? No matter. Barack Obama or an immediate family member can plunk down $10 ($11.50 if he orders online) and have Hawaii mail a certified document to him within a week or two. But more than two weeks have passed since the Obama campaign adopted the suspect, uncertified image of a purported birth document published by a left-wing blog Daily Kos, and nothing certified and nothing on paper has since has been forthcoming. Nor has there been any official comment about the issue from the campaign. They may cling to the hope -- however audacious -- that the one issue that could disqualify their man constitutionally from gaining the presidency will just go away.
Amy Hollyfield of the St. Petersburg Times, and a reporter for the paper's "Politifact" blog, said that she has been seeking the birth certificate "for months." She was frustrated: "Hawaii birth certificates aren't public record. Only family members can request copies, so when the campaign declined to give us one, we were stalled."
Finally, the campaign released the image (resembling the one at the top of this article). Hollyfield e-mailed it to the Hawaii Department of Health, which maintains such records, to ask if it was real.
"It's a valid Hawaii state birth certificate," spokesman Janice Okubo told us. Then the firestorm started.
The seal appears to be there. Click on the "Continue" link below for a video demonstration.
Could it be a case of much ado about nothing? Doug Ross thinks so. Questions have been raised about the copy posted on the Daily Kos site bore a state seal embossed. ..one of Pamela Geller's readers did some heavy-lifting with Photoshop and discovered what appears to be an embossed seal on the back of Obama's certificate.
Ross writes:
I was startled because I had carefully reviewed the image weeks ago and not seen any clue of a signature or embossed seal. I spent some time this morning playing with various graphics settings until I was able to tease a similar image out of the scan.
It certainly appears to be legitimate.
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/06/the-missing-oba.html
Delete this thread if it's a duplicate. There was no copy of it when I started to post.
There should still be much “ado” about this: Obama constantly refuses being called a Liberal yet he chose to release his personal document to a Liberal website.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
This guy is no Chauncey Gardiner.
***You mean from the Peter Sellers movie? In that case, I guess I’d say, “I understand”.
One thing I’m not clear about is that if someone wanted to take a legitimate birth certificate and put in fake information, would the seal pull through in Photoshop?
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
The issue of the “seal” doesn’t answer the questions regarding his citizenship. The fact that he has to lie about where he went to GRADE SCHOOL should be a big hint as to what else is being buried regarding his past.
Maybe the folks at DailyKOS did it so that all the heat would die down? I dunno.
It’s hard to dissect that liberal thinking where something that’s “fake but accurate” is acceptable.
Who cares what a photo shows. Photos are easy to doctor.
Anyone running for President needs to produce a valid, actual birth certificate proving they meet the constitutional requirements of being a natural born citizen.
Anyone running for President needs to produce a valid, actual birth certificate proving they meet the constitutional requirements of being a natural born citizen.
***Agreed, bump that.
And how about the fact that two different versions were actually posted, the one on KOS and the one Obama’s own site. They can’t both be genuine.
I hadn’t heard that one. Do you have links so that we can all come up to speed?
I'm still skeptical. This does not address the obviously phony margins. The document on Kos was photoshopped. Why hasn't Kos or BO released the original? It would be so easy to clear up if there weren't a problem with the original.
But your point is a good one. Why was this even an issue in the first place if there is a legitimate birth certificate in BO's possession? Make a hi-res copy of both sides and release it. Everything done in one hour. Instead, it's turned into a big drama.
LOL... some of us FR were way ahead of this blogger!
LOL... some of us on FR were way ahead of this blogger!
I agree. We should demand an actual Paper copy of the certificate from Obama. And to be fair, from McCain, Barr, Nader and anyone else running for president.
If we just question Obama’s certificate we will look like kooks. That’s why we need them all.
Why would any one go to the trouble of posting a fake birth certificate online
To make us look bad. Now, the next time there is a real reason to go after this Socialist pig Obama he’ll get to say , “see there goes the right wing conspiracy wackoos again “.
I maintain that the whole “Obama’s birth certificate is a fake” controversy was planted by Obama operatives to divert attention away from the more credible “Obama is a homosexual crackhead” controversy.
Wouldn't the authorizing signature appear also, like on the Decosta document?
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