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Mandatory In-Car Breathalyzers Coming?
National Motorists Association ^ | 6/23/08 | Eric Peters

Posted on 06/28/2008 7:30:35 PM PDT by elkfersupper

If you’re not a convicted drunk driver, should you still be required to have an in-car breathalyzer fitted (at your expense, ‘natch) to your next new vehicle?

Apparently, some automakers — including GM and Toyota — think so. They and a few others are working together under the auspices of something called the Driver Alcohol Detection System for Safety, which is a $10 million federal “research program” that is trying to develop just such technology for mass introduction a few years from now.

At the moment, the only people who have to deal with (and pay for) in-car Breathalyzers are convicted drunks; the devices are basically ignition locks that prevent the vehicle’s engine from being started until the would-be driver blows into the tube and the system determines he’s not liquored up.

But by 2012 or so, in-car breath sniffers could be standard equipment in every new vehicle sold, force-fed to you by the tag team of Washington, Detroit and, of course, the ever-busy Mothers Against Drunk Driving (MADD).

No conviction necessary.

Advocates say the technology under development would be “less intrusive.” Instead of making the driver blow into a little tube like they make you do at those roadside “sobriety checkpoints,” a system of passive alcohol sensors would be fitted to the car that could take a Blood Alcohol Content (BAC) reading via a person’s skin — as when your hand touches the shifter or steering wheel. This “quiet” approach is supposed to make us feel better about being pre-convicted and treated like known and duly processed irresponsible drunks every single time we get behind the wheel of a car.

It doesn’t work for me.

I dislike drunk drivers as much as Mothers Against Drunk Driving (is anyone actually for drunk driving)? But I certainly do object to policies and regulations that impose cost and hassle and arguably, petit tyranny, on people who have done absolutely nothing to warrant it.

This isn’t about nannyism so much as it is about upending a few basic bedrock Western ideas about criminal justice, rights and responsibilities. Chief among these being that each of us gets treated as a specific individual.

If we do something wrong, we get specifically held accountable for it; the guy next door who had nothing to do with it isn’t dragged along for the ride. But that’s just what is happening here — indeed, has already happened — from those so-called “sobriety checkpoints” (which mostly “check” perfectly sober drivers) to the growing kudzu of “primary enforcement” seat belts laws that pester (and ticket) people for not wearing a seat belt, an action that may not be especially smart on an individual level but which has very little to do with the safety or well-being of others.

What’s even worse than these growing harassments, however, is how few object to them on principle.

Perhaps it’s because of the continuous dumbing-down of the populace, which knows all about Lindsay Lohan’s latest bender and who’s the latest finalist on American Idol but no longer understands that the ends don’t justify the means — and that down that road lies much worse than henpecky tickets and having to pay a few more bucks for your next new car as a result of some government mandate.

People used to get that; today, most don’t seem to. It’s the only way to explain the tsunami-like effectiveness of the word, “safety” — which doesn’t have to be specifically defined, quantified, subjected to cost-benefit analysis or throttled back by the once-superior claim of the individual’s “personal bubble of authority” — where he or she formerly reigned supreme, free of the suffocating and endless edicts of others who claim their evaluation of a perceived risk trumps your personal right to choose.

Just say “safety” (and for added emphasis, include “our children”) and no objection can be sustained.

This latest bit of ugliness burbling up from the stinkpot of government-corporate do-gooderism is merely a symptom of the underlying canker that is our ignorance — and acquiescence.

Earlier generations of Americans would have said, “Hold on a minute. I haven’t been convicted of driving drunk; hell, I’ve never even been suspected of it. Why in the world should I be required to buy an alcohol sniffer to check me out before I drive?” They would have insisted on tough punishment for the specific dimwit who got behind the wheel of a car impaired by booze. But they would have insisted, with equal toughness, that everyone else be left the hell alone to go about their business in peace.

Today, however, the siren song of saaaaaaaaafety is like a secular version of the prayer call in Muslim countries. When people hear it, they automatically fall down on their knees en masse and begin to worship.

God may be great — but “safety” is rapidly gaining ground on him.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: drunkdriving; dui; dwi; madd; nannystate; privacy; transportation; wctu
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Very few actual or potential mothers on the MADD Mothers' Board of Directors.

Glynn R. Birch, National President

Laura Dean-Mooney

Brian Demers

Deborah Duncan

Paul D. Folkemer, Chairman of the Board

Lelia S. Haddle

Lew Hollinger

Leonard R. Jacob

Chris Johnson

David Levy

Jeffrey Levy

L. Anthony Pace

Paul V. Romero

Linda A. Rothwell

Robert Strassburger

Kathryn Stewart

Traci Toomey

Nina Walker

Theresa Paulette Winn

Jan Withers

Executive Director Charles A. Hurley, Chief Executive Officer

1 posted on 06/28/2008 7:30:35 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: Gabz

Potential nanny state ping.


2 posted on 06/28/2008 7:31:12 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper
That driver has a tummyache, get him a breathalyser ASAP!


3 posted on 06/28/2008 7:32:32 PM PDT by library user (There's no sandwich like prawn sandwich.)
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To: elkfersupper

Memo to GM and Toyota: It will be a cold day in hell...


4 posted on 06/28/2008 7:33:24 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (De-Globalize yourself !)
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To: elkfersupper
Advocates say the technology under development would be “less intrusive.” Instead of making the driver blow into a little tube like they make you do at those roadside “sobriety checkpoints,” a system of passive alcohol sensors would be fitted to the car that could take a Blood Alcohol Content (BAC) reading via a person’s skin — as when your hand touches the shifter or steering wheel. This “quiet” approach is supposed to make us feel better about being pre-convicted and treated like known and duly processed irresponsible drunks every single time we get behind the wheel of a car.

Uh....


5 posted on 06/28/2008 7:41:34 PM PDT by Entrepreneur (The environmental movement is filled with watermelons - green on the outside, red on the inside)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
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6 posted on 06/28/2008 7:43:15 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (De-Globalize yourself !)
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To: elkfersupper

I’ll stick with our 15/17 year old vehicles.Heck we still have a ‘79 Pinto sittin’ in the barn.Can’t see it happening.These folks don’t get out much.


7 posted on 06/28/2008 7:43:51 PM PDT by silentreignofheroes (Old Dogs and Children,and Watermelon Wine.)
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To: elkfersupper

I`ll just buy the last model vehicle made without this big brother gear and keep it road worthy.


8 posted on 06/28/2008 7:46:25 PM PDT by nomad
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To: Entrepreneur
Your car won't start if you try to defeat the protection device.

I see a new black market item - "sober hands".

9 posted on 06/28/2008 7:46:29 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper

I rarely drink, and I never drink and drive. That said, there is nothing toyota or GM can put on a car that I cannot bypass.

screw the nanny.


10 posted on 06/28/2008 7:47:32 PM PDT by Liberty 275
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To: elkfersupper; Just another Joe; CSM; lockjaw02; Publius6961; nopardons; metesky; Mears; ...

Nanny State Ping.

Other than the one line about this not being about nannyism, I am in agreement with the author.


11 posted on 06/28/2008 7:48:01 PM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my dad I'm a lobbyist, he thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: elkfersupper

Driver Alcohol Detection System for Safety— is this the same company owned by the “tag team” of Kennedy/Reid/Pelosi? (OK, I made that last part up.. sort of..)


12 posted on 06/28/2008 7:49:48 PM PDT by Mark (Don't argue with my posts. I typed while under sniper fire..)
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To: Gabz
Cant post this due to a copywright complaint, but check this out.

A reality check on DUI claims: Groups purposely misstate fatalities to further an anti-drinking agenda

13 posted on 06/28/2008 7:51:52 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: FlingWingFlyer

That’s an Old 18 year old.


14 posted on 06/28/2008 7:53:23 PM PDT by silentreignofheroes (Old Dogs and Children,and Watermelon Wine.)
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To: elkfersupper
A reality check on DUI claims: Groups purposely misstate fatalities to further an anti-drinking agenda

Why am I not surprised?

Liberals have taught us that agendas always trump facts.

15 posted on 06/28/2008 7:58:05 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Gabz

Just don’t use that mouthwash just before you go to work.

Sheesh...


16 posted on 06/28/2008 8:04:37 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: elkfersupper

This reminds me of an old bit from “Weekend Update” on SNL about ten years ago. Colin Quinn (sp?) was talking about these devices being researched. The punch-line was if you failed the breathalizer the car would drive you to your old-girlfriend’s place. Never thought I’d see the day when these things are real though.


17 posted on 06/28/2008 8:07:33 PM PDT by chargers fan
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To: elkfersupper

Good article, and right on the money.

Don’t forget, MADD’s been taken over by RWJF.


18 posted on 06/28/2008 8:17:59 PM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my dad I'm a lobbyist, he thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: metmom

Or be wearing perfume..........


19 posted on 06/28/2008 8:20:42 PM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my dad I'm a lobbyist, he thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: elkfersupper
Not in MINE!
20 posted on 06/28/2008 8:22:14 PM PDT by mirkwood
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