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1 posted on 06/28/2008 11:47:40 AM PDT by BGHater
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I guess once they convince the public they no longer have any expectation of privacy or dignity with respect to their persons , it is deemed there are no limits as to how far they can go .


2 posted on 06/28/2008 11:53:18 AM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know)
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Encrypt and email data / documents generated while traveling before you come back. Then potential nightmares become just PITA.


3 posted on 06/28/2008 11:55:48 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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A hearing Wednesday before the Senate Committee on the Judiciary's Subcommittee on the Constitution hopes to learn more about the extent of the program and safeguards to traveler's privacy.

Thank God they're addressing this, and not the trivial stuff like how the price of diesel and gasoline is going to torpedo the economy...

4 posted on 06/28/2008 11:57:08 AM PDT by an amused spectator (corruptissima republica, plurimae leges)
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...a freelance investigative reporter whose recent stories have ranged from the origins of the Iraq war to the impact of money in presidential politics.

Since most so-called "reporters" are part of the enemy camp, or at least enablers, they need to be watched carefully. If he was doing hate Bush stuff he was probably on a watch list.

5 posted on 06/28/2008 11:58:01 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW!)
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If that is not reason to have a PDA (I use Blackberry) on a dedicated server so you can remotely wipe it in about 3 minutes, I don't know what is. Then you can push it back down to a new device.

Company security, AND personal security, is a part of smart technology that is implemented ahead of time. IMO.

Plus, "the hassle" of having a security sign on (mine locks itself after 15 mins or non-use, being holstered or if I hit the lock button) on a PDA/Laptop is more important than ever.

6 posted on 06/28/2008 11:58:54 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (Senator McCain, what did GWB promise you back in 2000? And you believed him? BWAHAAAAA!)
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This guy seems to work for the “Center for Public Integrity,” which investigates political fund raising.

http://www.buyingofthepresident.org/index.php/multimedia_center/video/bill_hogan_on_dan_rather_reports/

I checked out what it said about the candidates and note that it rates McCain 2 out 7 and Obama 4 out of 7.

Well, they’re both crooks, no doubt, but Obama is a bigger fund-raising crook than McCain. He works with billionaire money-laundering crooks and the Chicago mob. So the bias seems pretty clear.


9 posted on 06/28/2008 12:04:08 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Google search Bill Hogan, one of the results:

And an article in the online edition of "Mother Jones" magazine expands on all of .... Thank you very much, Bill Hogan with "Mother Jones" magazine -- we ...

Yep, he's one of "them"! Investigative reporter, my @$$ foot!

10 posted on 06/28/2008 12:04:18 PM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW!)
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"It was fortunate that I didn't use that machine for work or I would have had to call up all my sources and tell them that the government had just seized their information," he said.

The dirty secret and part of the reason the Left doesn't want phone taps for those communicating internationally with terrorists is that the Western media IS in communication with some of the so called "insurgent" terrorists.

Time Magazine had a reported embedded with them at the time of Saddam's capture. He went into terrorist seized cities as a guest.

Some in the media have chosen a side in this war and it is the opposition.

11 posted on 06/28/2008 12:06:28 PM PDT by weegee
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There can be no genuine border security for travellers when millions of illegal invaders have come into this nation with no inspection or prosecution from law enforcement agencies, no prosecution of the city councils and mayors who institute "safe harbor" programs for illegal aliens hiding out, no investigation by Congress.

Only the citizens who dare submit to the law are to be punished by it.

It does not pay to be an American these days. Foreign nationals have many more rights in our courts and Congress than the citizenry.

14 posted on 06/28/2008 12:10:07 PM PDT by weegee
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“War on Terror” = War on 4th Amendment.

I’m sorry, the remains of the 4th Amendment.


17 posted on 06/28/2008 12:16:37 PM PDT by Natchez Hawk (This is Sammy Israel III filling in for DB Cooper who will be returning next week,)
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Do not expect a right to privacy at the border.

law says you don’t have one.


28 posted on 06/28/2008 1:11:15 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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Met a fellow on a recent trip who had two laptops taken away when entering into South Africa. He doesn’t travel internationally with them any more.


36 posted on 06/28/2008 1:37:46 PM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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I don’t even want electronic krap on the plane with me and that includes everyone else’s. I still remember Pan Am 800. I travel LIGHT, carrying nothing. If you need it where you’re going ship it ahead. There is nothing more boring than sitting next to some clown with a laptop trying to pull up his porn collection. If there is an actual security concern why the bleep is the bozo carrying it thru public places anyway? If all of you would leave you’re gee-whiz gear home maybe we could all get thru an airport before the sun goes down? Every body who thinks he’s a big deal when he gets on a plane raise your hand-—and put your Gyrogearloose gear on the conveyor. I’m all for inspecting your electronic gizmos to the max and it doesn’t bother me if it takes a couple weeks for you to get them back. And that goes double for this whiner.


39 posted on 06/28/2008 1:49:09 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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Crossing over an international border is a bizarre thing, legally, so you should take extra precautions.

In the “neutral zone” between countries, US law does NOT fully apply. For example, you can be detained, strip searched, held without probable cause, and your person and property can be violated to a considerable degree.

I fully agree that you should never transport unsecured computers or data devices across borders, and that you should use a very high grade of encryption that is of a different type for computer and data access. Importantly, you should *never* use your equipment or data in the customs area, or it can be snatched from you, evading your encryption.

Remember also that whatever you have is subject to the laws of *two* countries, not just one. This is especially important as far as images of restricted locations and persons (pictures of soldiers), public sites that *could* be terrorist targets, such as government buildings, airports, dams, and whatever.

One of the worst things to have pictures of are children, even in the most innocent and legitimate situations. This is a “high scrutiny” area for customs personnel, as well as things that *might* be related to terrorism, drug trafficking, money transfer and smuggling, and unknown animals and plants.

US Customs has an enormous book of prohibited animals and plants, so if you try carrying a native flower back with you, it could cost you hours of detention while its type is determined. Seaweed is one of the worst, and researchers spend a lot of time at the border.


43 posted on 06/28/2008 2:26:07 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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At the border, your 4A rights are at their nadir and the government’s interest at its apex. Don’t want your laptop or PDA investigated? Too bad. Don’t leave the US.


55 posted on 06/28/2008 4:59:59 PM PDT by jude24 (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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Sounds like an unlawful search and seizure. Is this what we expect from our government, a total violation of our rights??


57 posted on 06/28/2008 5:17:34 PM PDT by CodeToad
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