Posted on 06/28/2008 10:36:43 AM PDT by kristinn
As you mention, a single sincere recitation of the shahada is all that is required to be a professing Muslim.
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But I much prefer a sincere recitation BY the SHANANA, such as this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDxaLLwyr6I
We still havent recovered from the 8 years of Clintoons
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I don’t expect to see us ever recover from the Clintoons.
“I dont expect to see us ever recover from the Clintoons.”
Sadly, you are probably correct in many ways.
“Be careful Freepers. But don’t back down.”
Heres my answer to Dr. Allen, as follows:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2037813/posts?page=217#217
Mrs. Allen informs us:
The idea of unsubstantiated charges whispered through gossip trails has been a tried-and-true political technique since well before Machiavellis time.
How about the king is wearing an empty suit today bellowed from the rooftops does that count?
Along with the poison of Machiavelli she then peppers her speech with unanimity on the internet and the word smear forgetting that many great and influential writers such as Samuel Clemens (Mark Twain) and a host of other luminaries made use of pseudonyms.
Was it a smear when Mark Twain said: Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself ?
She further says:
The anonymous chain e-mail makes the false claim that Obama is concealing a radical Islamic background.
There is a letter from some African Missionaries that seems rather strong but Beckwith didnt write it.
Obama may be Muslim and we all know he has radical friends maybe even some radical Muslim friends but where does the Obama file say that he personally is a RADICAL Muslim?
She then says:
I started thinking, How does one stop it?
Well, Mrs. Allen could exercise her first amendment right of free speech, and lobby to limit free speech to only the speech she agrees with.
Perhaps she would be pleased to sit on a board of review with other geniuses a board that would act as a sort of social filter one that would purge all views that dont resonate with her rarefied cogitations.
Maybe she could reside over a book burning, or maybe we should say (figuratively) a cyber-burning, including certain websites and e-mails, that Dr. Allen disagrees with.
Dr. Allen doesnt seem to grasp that the first amendment was designed to protect precisely that speech sometimes even angry and pointed speech that one may vehemently disagree with.
Perhaps Dr. Allen was truant on the day her Political Science professor discussed the first amendment.
Maybe she was off somewhere reading Machiavelli !
She says:
This kind of misinformation campaign short-circuits judgment.
Unless one is naïve enough to swallow whole any data one receives, whether through an anonymous internet e-mail, the mindless idiots on the mainstream TV. news, or other sundry sources; I am at a loss as to how anyone capable of reason let alone a genius would suffer impairment to their faculty of judgment.
One is not forced to read or accept anything.
One exercises the ability to discriminate to sort out what one accepts and what one doesnt, amongst the potpourri of ideas and views one encounters in life a concept Mrs. Allen seems at odds with.
She then astoundingly says:
It also aggressively disregards the fundamental principle of free societies that one be able to debate ones accusers.
Nay, Dr. Allen, the fundamental principle of free societies is that one be able to criticize those in authority and power without fear of reprisal.
To the extent such criticism is chilled to that extent we live under tyranny.
Machiavelli indeed!
STE=Q
Update: Beckwith clerifies what the Obama file DOES say, as follows:
“The charge that ‘Obama is a Muslim’ or ‘Obama was a Muslim’ does not exist in The Obama File.
The statement ‘By birth, blood and training, a Muslim, who has been a member of a Black-African church for 20 years’ is in The Obama File and is demonstrably true based on Obama’s own autobiography, press interviews, and statements of his teachers, classmates and family members — not to mention Islamic theology.”
unanimity = anonymity
“Grampa, any idea what it will be? Indo passport in his name? A photo of him embracing the Indo flag? A school essay titled, “Why I Love Indonesia, and Why America and Kenya Stink”?”
Obama like the Clintoons is beyond my meager ability to predict what he hasn’t told us.
Guys, it was Expatguy who was honored with the visits from Obama’s thugs, not me. Thanks for your concern.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2037834/posts?page=162#162
To: Grampa Dave; Beckwith
Obamas thugs have already come and seen me - I emailed Beckwith about it a few months back -
162 posted on Saturday, June 28, 2008 1:13:54 PM by expatguy (”An American Expat in Southeast Asia” - New & Improved - Now with Search)
Thanks for the update and good information, GrampaDave.
Ping.
So much for the ombudsman admission that the Post was biased in favor of Obama. No one listened. No one cdared. Nothing has changed. The Compost will continue down the drain. Good riddance.
Why do all leftists have such a sneer on their faces? Oh, yes, that’s because they’re arrogant bastards who have oversized self-esteem but who are really just a pack of hacks.
You be careful!
You’re the one out front!
And by the way, thank you for being out front! ;^)
It’s always good to hear from the house organ of the Leviathan state.
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