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Breathtaking implications...for freepers certainly and for FREEDOM period.
1 posted on 06/28/2008 7:01:21 AM PDT by SE Mom
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To: SE Mom; All
Dear Danielle Allen,

Brightest CrayonA Bit PissyEvil Troll

50 posted on 06/28/2008 7:48:53 AM PDT by musicman
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To: SE Mom
Irresponsible dissent is dangerous for our democracy. Any deviation from majority opinion is very dangerous for our democracy -- social equality in thought and action are the goals of democracy. True freedom is the absence of dissent from the views of the anointed ones.

You know you belong in the Rat Party (formerly the traditional, patriotic Democratic Party) if you believe that.

.. another clue that you belong there is if you believe that the cost of the myriad multi-billion-dollar social programs (how many trillions spent in the quagmire of the WOP, war on poverty?) are just find if Congress funds them and the taxpayers do not have to pay for them.

51 posted on 06/28/2008 7:49:47 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: SE Mom
Is it going too far to guess that the scholar from the Institute for Advanced Studies might be searching for some way to do the same for Free Republic?

Not surprising that this "razor-sharp political theorist" from the Ivy League only calls for the regulation of conservative political websites.

53 posted on 06/28/2008 7:52:36 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: SE Mom

Danielle S. Allen
School of Social Science
Institute for Advanced Study
Princeton, N.J. 08540
(609) 734-8252 (Voice)
e-mail: dsallen@ias.edu

http://humanities.uchicago.edu/depts/classics/people/dallencv.htm


57 posted on 06/28/2008 7:58:31 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: SE Mom
“Widely known for her work on justice and citizenship in ancient Athens and its application to modern America, Dr. Allen is the author of The World of Prometheus: The Politics of Punishing in Democratic Athens (Princeton University Press, 2000) and Talking to Strangers: Anxieties of Citizenship Since Brown vs. the Board of Education (University of Chicago Press, 2004). In 2002 she was awarded a MacArthur Fellowship for her ability to combine “the classicist's careful attention to texts and language with the political theorist's sophisticated and informed engagement.”

The good Dr. (an affirmative action 2fer (a WOC-woman of color)) has built a career out of distorting the past through the filter of her bitterness, to conform with the current politically correct orthodoxy.
Personal to the good Dr. If you are a lesbian, that would make you a 3fer, a LOC (lesbian of color.) I don't want to assume things that I'm not certain of, so please forgive me if I have shortchanged recognition of your victim-hood.

58 posted on 06/28/2008 7:59:25 AM PDT by Ratblaster ( Obama's house, Rezko's yard)
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To: Beckwith; Fred Nerks

Check this out!


59 posted on 06/28/2008 8:02:15 AM PDT by indcons
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To: SE Mom
Dear Ms. Allen.

I read the following:

Allen found…a couple of posters on the Free Republic website, plus a former political rival of Obama's who sends out zillions of e-mails to reporters every day.

The former political rival appears to have been completely open about the stuff he sent out, some of which was based on arguments similar to an op-ed that appeared in the pages of the New York Times. As for Free Republic, according to the Post, Allen "counted 23 freepers among those engaging in regular discussions about Obama's religion, and isolated a handful whom she began to suspect as having a role in the e-mail. Sifting through hundreds of postings, she began to piece together their identities."

Although I regret to say that I - Responsibility2nd - am not one of the 23 freepers, I would certainly like to be. Could you help me? If you would provide me with the e-mail addresses of the reporters in the known universe, I will be glad to start spreading the message that yes; Obama is a Muslim.

Sincerely yours,

Responsibility2nd

60 posted on 06/28/2008 8:03:18 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Yo prometo lealtad a la bandera de los Estados Unidos de America, y a la Republica que representa...)
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....the origin of a number of e-mails claiming that Barack Obama is a Muslim.

Look Danielle, considering B-HO's father was a Muslim and all available evidence suggests for some years he had a reasonably Muslim upbringing under the auspices of his Indonesian step-father it shouldn't come as a surprise that such rumors (of him currently being a Muslim) flourish. That being the case, attempting to locate its origins is a fool's errand -- way too many sources.

61 posted on 06/28/2008 8:04:03 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: SE Mom
counted 23 freepers among those engaging in regular discussions about Obama's religion, and isolated a handful whom she began to suspect as having a role in the e-mail. Sifting through hundreds of postings, she began to piece together their identities."

Seems she has causation chronology down. First, I would love to know how she 'deduced' that FReepers had a role in the email, and secondly, how does she not also come to the same conclusion that her 'evidence' is a reverse of the causation chronology- the FReepers reacting to an existing email?

Next, so what? Why can't the question be asked. The left always likes to dig into the religious beliefs of the right to try to find perceived 'hypocrisy'.

Finally, it is this reporter who is contributing to this story staying alive, I 'suspect' she may be part of the original story and it is in her interest, although unstated, to keep the story alive.

63 posted on 06/28/2008 8:04:31 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: SE Mom

It sounds as if she is a member of a liberal “I’ll-tell-you-how-to-’Think Tank’!”


64 posted on 06/28/2008 8:05:18 AM PDT by airborne ("Gore's fault!" - USSC Justice Scalia)
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To: SE Mom
"It (her data, not her information, BTW) also aggressively disregards the fundamental principle of free societies that one be able to debate one's accusers."

Now, I must have missed that Memo... I can accept this as a principle, but fundamental? A natural right, perhaps?

Does this tenured knucklehead believe freedom of speech means "right to be heard?" perhaps "right to opinion being legitimate?"

This is not science, this is hogwash fed into a computer and then counted, so that hogwash can then be expressed as mathematics... quantified hogwash.

Not content with being tenured and funded, even published, she takes her hogwash and actually wants it to become part of some policy debate about "fairness" no doubt.

As the late, great George Carlin once said, "there's no two ways about it. There's two sides to every story."

65 posted on 06/28/2008 8:06:03 AM PDT by Prospero (non est ad astra mollis e terris via)
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Just a quick question to Mrs. Allen. Are you in the open minded, oh so progressive, culturally tolerant liberal press now admitting there is something wrong with being a Muslim?

You in the press seem to be treating some on our side questioning this as if we are accusing someone of child rape. All some are asking is if he is being honest about his religious upbringing. Why not stand up and say “so what if he was a Muslim”? Your little witch hunt to find the origin confirms to many that you do think there is a problem with someone being a Muslim.

70 posted on 06/28/2008 8:11:53 AM PDT by mnehring
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>>>>>Allen ... won a $500,000 MacArthur Foundation genius grant a few years ago and now conducts studies at the Institute, where, according to the Post, "she works alongside groundbreaking ... social scientists.

Danielle Allen definitely has too much money and too much time on her liberal hands.

72 posted on 06/28/2008 8:15:24 AM PDT by Reagan Man ( McCain Wants My Conservative Vote in November --- EARN IT or NO DEAL !!!)
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"I started thinking, 'How does one stop it?'" Allen told the Post.

In the old days they would just cut out their tongue...my friend./s

74 posted on 06/28/2008 8:18:13 AM PDT by Earthdweller
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But the article has a pretty clear subtext, and it is that the exchange of such information on the Internet should be controlled. "I started thinking, 'How does one stop it?'"

It never occurs to these bozos that any system designed to stop "lies" will mostly end up being used to stop truth. Such is the history of censorship.

And is there any doubt that we will someday read a majority opinion from the Supremes that the 1st Amendment was never intended to provide protection to liars. It could happen any time that Justice Kennedy feels the urge. He has four solid votes right now so it is entirely up to him to decide. The writings of those evil Global Warming Skeptics would make a good case. Sadly.

76 posted on 06/28/2008 8:18:32 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: SE Mom

No bias here:
http://www.opensecrets.org/indivs/donor_lookup.php?name=allen,%20danielle

Contributor Occupation Date Amount Recipient
ALLEN, DANIELLE
CHICAGO,IL 60615 INSTITUTE FOR ADVANCED STUDY/PROFES 12/7/07 $1,100 Obama, Barack (D)
ALLEN, DANIELLE
CHICAGO,IL 60615 INSTITUTE FOR ADVANCED STUDY/PROFES 11/16/07 $500 Obama, Barack (D)
ALLEN, DANIELLE
CHICAGO,IL 60615 INSTITUTE FOR ADVANCED STUDY/PROFES 8/8/07 $500 Obama, Barack (D)
ALLEN, DANIELLE
CHICAGO,IL 60615 INSTITUTE FOR ADVANCED STUDY/PROFES 9/30/07 $250 Obama, Barack (D)


78 posted on 06/28/2008 8:20:20 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: SE Mom

The question people aren’t asking, is what do radical Muslims think ?

To THEM, Barack Obama is the son of a Muslim, and therefore, by many traditions, is a Muslim. Worse still, he now professes Christianity, which makes him, in their eyes, an apostate.

Consider THOSE implications, when looking at the future. . .

If elected, it will NOT likely be a peaceful 4 years. . .


80 posted on 06/28/2008 8:21:44 AM PDT by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border: I dare you to try and cross it. . .)
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Danielle Allen, a "razor-sharp, 36-year-old political theorist" at Princeton's Institute for Advanced Studies. Allen, with doctorates from Cambridge and Harvard, won a $500,000 MacArthur Foundation genius grant a few years ago and now conducts studies at the Institute, where, according to the Post, "she works alongside groundbreaking physicists, mathematicians and social scientists. They don't have to teach, and they face no quotas on what they publish. Their only mandate is to work in the tradition of Einstein, wrestling with the most vexing problems in the universe."

Political Science as an advanced study? In other words, Danielle is an appointed communist filling the minority seat who insures the high cost of tuition for the masses. She is paid to ensure the furthering of Marxist ideology.

85 posted on 06/28/2008 8:29:12 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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"'How does one stop it?'" Allen told the Post."

They don't want debate. They want to shut down debate, destroy the opposition, and assume total and evelasting control.

87 posted on 06/28/2008 8:29:52 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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Some researcher is being lauded for "discovering" basic peopleware rules that every hardcore network admin on the planet recognizes in the first few months of their professional career?

Holy Crap!. If this meddling Jane-On-The-Spot keeps throwing the gaunlet down via Google, she's gonna find the pr0n!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

90 posted on 06/28/2008 8:38:11 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Islam: Imagine a clown car.........with guns.)
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