[GourmetDan]

"And what force, pray-tell, moves the sun around the earth?; considering the sun is many MILLIONS of times more massive. Apparently gravity is another theory you have fundamental problems with. And what explains the stars retrograde motions? Epicycles? Epicycles within epicycles? Why do you think things would move in epicycles in the absence of evidence?"

You don't understand the implications of the statements that Einstein, Hoyle, Born and Ellis made.

Gravity still drives everything. As I have explained to you before, geocentrists (and Einstein, Hoyle, Born and Ellis) consider the entire universe while geokineticists don't.

I just don't think you are capable of understanding it.

[allmendream]

Yes, and last time you explained your “model” you threw planetary gravity in there, which is ludicrous considering the minuscule effect of Jupiter's gravity (something like one sixty millionth as much force as the Sun).

SO the entire universe conspires to pull the sun around the earth? What makes it go in 24 hour and 365 day cycles?

Einstein wasn't a geocentrist. You must be oh so much smarter than him to “correctly” interpret his theory to put the earth in the center where human ego demands that it be.

All glory to God and the Heavens. Not man and earth.