[Cinnamon Girl]

Is it possible for you to make your point without being so darn insulting? Doesn’t speak much for the rest of what you have to say.

The cities I listed have been liberal for YEARS and continue to elect liberals who perpetuate failing systems. THAT is what I said. What you said, that people have become more conservative after experiencing liberal failure HAS NOT been the case in these major cities. Your plan to elect Obama and have everyone learn a lesson about how liberal policy doesn’t work is based on the hope that another Reagan will suddenly come along at just the right time. But while liberals are in office, they tend to install a lot of bad social programs, which don’t even get erased by Reagan (note all the damage done by FDR and LBJ which no one has undone.)

[TexasGunLover]

Doesn’t speak much for the rest of what you have to say.

By your logic, that means what Bush has said about immigration makes him wrong about the WOT, come on.

I'm just not into all of this ineffective, tactical thinking you propose. The strategic plan is not one that provides immediate results, but furthers the conservative cause.

For a foundation of argument, in your opinion, do you believe the masses have taken a liberal or conservative shift in the last 4 years?