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To: Eurale
I had an amazing discussion this week with two Obama FANATICS who hated Bush, McCain, etc., yet vehemently denied they were liberals. They asked why I insisted on calling them liberals (one finally copped to being a lib, the other that she "used to be" but was "more conservative" now, though not on abortion, gun control, Obama, etc.), and I asked them if they weren't able to determine by seeing how one votes whether or not he/she was liberal or conservative.

They couldn't name a damned thing Obama wanted to do, but both swooned over how well he speaks in public, "and I put a lot of stock in that," one said.

I told her "I consider a liberal someone who votes for Obama because he reads speeches real well."

26 posted on 06/27/2008 4:44:52 AM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: Darkwolf377
They couldn't name a damned thing Obama wanted to do, but both swooned over how well he speaks in public, “and I put a lot of stock in that,” one said.
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There are only two kinds: Communists and Useful Idiots.

These air heads fall into the category of “Useful Idiot”!

30 posted on 06/27/2008 4:48:59 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: Darkwolf377
They couldn't name a damned thing Obama wanted to do, but both swooned over how well he speaks in public, "and I put a lot of stock in that," one said.

I wonder what would have happened if you had, after this remark, replied "yeah, but isn't the excitement you have when you hear him speak in public, isn't that more of a feeling than a reasoned reaction?"

I'm not putting it quite the way I'd like here. But that article did give me a clue as to how to deal with this kind of person. The clue is this: listen to them until you discover the "feeling" in their position. Then gently point it out, in a way that is calculated to not engage their ego and cause them to become defensive. This may mean that you don't try to "win" the argument. Instead, you try to reveal the truth to them just a little; your goal is for them to think about the exchange later, when they're not in a one-on-one argument that they may feel they have to win. Maybe, in the quiet of their own thoughts, they will remember the exchange with you and begin to question their reliance on feeling instead of thinking.

39 posted on 06/27/2008 5:38:41 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Without the second, the rest are just politicians' BS.)
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