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Sony has lost over $3 billion on the PS3
yahoo games ^ | 27 June 2008 | Ben Silverman

Posted on 06/26/2008 10:03:54 PM PDT by stainlessbanner

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To: Salamander

Forgot their email page:

http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/contact-email.pl?


41 posted on 06/27/2008 12:10:44 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: BillyBoy
The Wii is basically like an updated Gamecube, it can't do all the things a PS3 or 360 can do. I have been saying for years that all these games based on FMVs and Graphics would hurt the companies in the long run and lead to a gaming crash.

Nintendo found something great with the touch screen DS and motion sensors with the Wii.

Also to be honest I did not see a need to launch new consoles as the PS2 era ones were just fine.

42 posted on 06/27/2008 12:16:53 AM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: max americana
Turismo and the old Asteroids is all I play!

so I'm makin due with a PS1.

what can I say? I have simple tastes!

43 posted on 06/27/2008 12:20:05 AM PDT by Cheapskate (Still backing Hunter"I refuse to be fitted with collar and chain, and given a pat on the back")
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To: stainlessbanner
If this was the Xbox the cries of unfair business practices would be far and wide. My last Vaio made me officially done with Sony. The Xbox looks better anyway, every game.
44 posted on 06/27/2008 1:00:11 AM PDT by allmost
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To: Cheapskate

Every game should have a big head mode and a Final Fight car destroying bonus level.


45 posted on 06/27/2008 1:23:31 AM PDT by Disciplinemisanthropy (...and that, people, is what grinds my gears.)
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To: Salamander
The screen is messed up from magnetism because of a known, flaw in this model’s speaker shielding

All modern laptop computers have LCD screens.

LCDs are immune to interference from magnetism.

Your laptop may have display screen problems, but the chances of them being caused by magnetism from the speakers is virtually nil.

46 posted on 06/27/2008 1:42:48 AM PDT by Skibane
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To: stainlessbanner
Strategy is to make up the difference with video game sales and increased market penetration.

And that's going to hurt them even worse. The "perception" is that the PS3 just doesn't have as many great or even good games to justify it's purchase. They counted on people buying in on the technology such as the Blue Ray and promises of great new releases in the future. While Blue Ray was attractive, the perception of too few games was at first correct, even through the first year of sales.

It's slowly coming around however, but we are now close to 1.5 years following release and many people have made their decision at this point. True, Blue Ray may continue to tip the scale on future buyers, it's a nice bundle, but gamers are also looking at their wallet and the immediate ROI in gameplay value (especially with the recent skyrocketing of standard expenses.) That's where the Wii and the XBOX 360 really hit the PS3 hard on competition.

It will be interesting to see how the failure of the PS3 impacts the future of the console market, as the console moves closer and closer to offering competative functionality with the standard home PC.

47 posted on 06/27/2008 3:00:43 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: stainlessbanner
I didn't buy my PS3 because it was an expensive video game system - I bought it because it was the cheapest/best and most up-to-date Blu-Ray/DVD/CDROM disc player available.

The quality and features of the device are tremendous. It even has a feature for donating excess CPU power to medical researchers when you're not using the system - which I think is kinda cool.

And the games are as impressive as any I've seen - though I'm no connoisseur.

48 posted on 06/27/2008 3:49:07 AM PDT by The Duke (I have met the enemy, and he is named 'Apathy'!)
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To: stainlessbanner

The Sony Play Station 3 is the best Blu-ray player for the money. What many do not know is many set-top Blu-ray players will not play the BD-R and BD-RE versions of Blu-ray discs. These are the only discs consumers can buy as blanks and burn on available Blu-ray burners. The PS3 CAN play all variants of Blu-ray discs.


49 posted on 06/27/2008 4:33:05 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: mowowie
No game on the PS3 can break my 2 year addiction to Battlefield 2142 on my PC. It’s worse than Heroin. I wish i could find a Freeper partner to kick ass with!!

We had a Battlefield II squad for awhile that regularly played. Had a thread devoted to games that started it. Ping DocRock or Zena to see if anything is still happening.

50 posted on 06/27/2008 4:49:18 AM PDT by doodad
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To: BillyBoy
Why are all the Metal Gear, Final Fantasy, Silent Hill, and Call of Duty game series being released on PS3 and not Wii?

I was a video game reviewer in the '80's, and I can tell you that the demographic of the buyer is as important as the sheer number of units. Just as Corvette owners are more likely to but certain kinds of fancy add-ons than a Buick Century owner. Nintendo went for the broad family demographic, women overwhelmingly prefer Wii, and the unit has a more family friendly reputation. 17-35 year old single guys go for the PS3 (and custom PC rigs). They spend a LOT more money on games and will spend more per game, and they tend to go more for the first person shoot-em-ups.

Oh, and if the new Nintendo is anything like the old Nintendo, they make things hard on 3rd party companies.
51 posted on 06/27/2008 5:06:11 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: Boxen

“Yuck. A fanboy.”

Still, it’s true that the Wii just doesn’t have anything like the raw processing power and graphics ability that the PS3 or XBox360 do, to implement the latest games. It’s not the market that the Wii was aimed at - Nintendo made the Wii different for a reason, and people have bought it for a different sort of gaming experience. But if you want the latest, greatest, photo-realistic gaming experience it’s not the machine for it. Truth be told, even the consoles come up short compared to PCs in this regard, but many of the best games are never released for the PC, due to rampant piracy on that platform. I have a 360, because I like the fully integrated console gaming experience, and it was available when I had some money burning a hole in my pocket. I’m pretty sure MS has lost a bunch of money on the 360, too, especially given how many of them they’ve had to fix and/or replace due to hardware failures.


52 posted on 06/27/2008 6:30:29 AM PDT by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like ox.)
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To: stainlessbanner

Basically, the PS3 was too advanced for its release time. It used a far too expensive and powerful processor and had a Blu-Ray laser that cost about $150 at the time. Most people just weren’t ready for a $600 price tag on a console (it took about a $300 loss for Sony to get it down that low). Costs are way down now, it’s competitive as a game machine now that the price dropped and the system software is mature, and it’s positioned as the Blu-Ray player of choice.

I expect Sony will eventually make its money back. Microsoft hasn’t even made its money back on the XBox line yet.


53 posted on 06/27/2008 7:13:25 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: BillyBoy
What I'd like to know is why all these third party video game companies keep releasing games for the failed PS3 instead of the successful Wii.

Because some games need powerful processors and realistic graphics to look right, and the Wii doesn't have that. The Wii also doesn't have enough storage for very large games (8.5 GB max vs. 50 GB for PS3) and less included in-console storage space, especially for downloaded add-ons. BTW, I have both so I'm talking from experience. I can't say which I like better because it's more like they complement each other.

54 posted on 06/27/2008 7:20:39 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Figment
I’ll let the Jones’s eat the cost of this one by themselves

As far as HD disks and players go, the early people have been screwed already as is usual with new technology like this (my first DVD player cost $380 and was missing features found on $60 players these days). Now it's time for the masses to enjoy.

55 posted on 06/27/2008 7:24:43 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: mowowie
The Wii is a toy.

Look at the larger picture, they're both toys. The PS3 has great games with great graphics and does multimedia incredibly well, but you just haven't had crazy fun on a console unless you've played Wario or Rayman on the Wii. And the new Mario is as ground-breaking as was Mario 64.

56 posted on 06/27/2008 7:30:12 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: CarrotAndStick
The reason why Wii became a hit was that it was more affordable, and also released early.

The PS3 was released eight days before the Wii.

57 posted on 06/27/2008 7:32:02 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: stainlessbanner
Production costs too high, losing money on each unit sold.

Sony should go into the restaurant business.

58 posted on 06/27/2008 7:38:39 AM PDT by Stentor (Obama supporters. Letting the little void do the thinking for the big void.)
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To: Dr. Sivana
Oh, and if the new Nintendo is anything like the old Nintendo, they make things hard on 3rd party companies.

It's not quite as hard these days. They learned their N64 lesson with the difficult and expensive development, so apparently the Cube and now Wii are very easy and relatively cheap to develop for. As far as the iron-fisted approval of games to ship for the platform, purists have actually been complaining that Nintendo lets too many mediocre games through.

59 posted on 06/27/2008 7:39:42 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

I love the 1985 Super Mario Bros - what a classic game. They stepped up with Mario64 and the new super mario galaxy is a tremendous game - nintendo really made it fun to play and exciting. The graphics, storyline, music, and various levels of play make it an excellent game.


60 posted on 06/27/2008 8:07:35 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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