6 Mexicans dressed as cops kill Phoenix man

AZ has one of the strictest laws against employers hiring illegals on the books. Its not being utilized though even by Sheriff Arpaio.

What was prop 300?

Prop 200 was for voter ID...Prop 300 for tuition and child care...And then the immigration hiring law which was upheld by a federal judge to make it illegal to hire illegal aliens.

I know the existing laws on the books should have been sufficient to take care of the problems we have been having for over a decade. But, our government is not doing their job. So what does that mean...Anarchy? I voted for W twice. If the dems really wanted a reason to impeach the Prez, failure to enforce our immigration laws would be a good start. Of course both parties are beholden, hoping for illegal votes so the rats have no moral authority on the issue. So in a sense we have an anarchist government. Today we have the second amendment in question even though the D.C. suit was brought to an end. It's just the beginning, IMO.

What specific illegal immigration laws are going unforced?

Employer hiring of illegals. Our state government has been extremely lax on enforcing and deporting illegals in the name of racial profiling. Seems we have one government agency fighting against another for enforcement.

If you go to a hospital in Arizona the staff are informed not to ask about insurance benefits at the time of treatment because of a discrimination policy.

AZ has a very strict employer sanction law of hiring illegals and its being utilized even by Sheriff Arpaio.

What hospital? I’ve taken my husband three times to John C Lincoln in the last year and all three times have asked for his insurance card.

oops I meant going not utilized

http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/hourlyupdate/243790.php

"I meant going not utilized"

We are'nt in this predictament because they did "utilize."

I have to tell ya. I'm not against people coming and to our country, but it's got to be the legal way. It's the American way. Unfortunately we live in times where our govenment (as in both parties) don't give a shiite about anything except gaining or retaining power...at any cost!

On top of it all we have to worry about liberal judges eroding our 2nd ammendment!!!

What was the victims background / connection too the killers ?

Ahh yes, the old "it's too hard, let's give up" line.

Every time I hear the "we can't stop them' line I can't help but think fine let them trespass on your personal property and don't bother calling the cops because the illegals can't be stopped.

Key word “knowingly.” Years ago when my company did hiring we were so careful to do the right thing and make sure a green card was issued...Then knowingly didn’t exist...

If you have a fix for the problem, other than just wall building, I’m willing to listen.

The solution has existed from a long time. It's called the Federal Immigration and Natinoality Act. Below is the law.

Federal Immigration and Nationality Act

Section 8 USC 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv)(b)(iii) Recruitment and Employment of Illegal Aliens Encouraging and Harboring Illegal Aliens Enforcement RICO —Citizen Recourse Tax Crimes Comment

Section 8 USC 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv)(b)(iii) "Any person who . . . encourages or induces an illegal alien to . . . reside . . . knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such . . . residence is . . . in violation of law, shall be punished as provided . . . for each illegal alien in respect to whom such a violation occurs . . . fined under title 18 . . . imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both."

Section 274 felonies under the federal Immigration and Nationality Act, INA 274A(a)(1)(A):

A person (including a group of persons, business, organization, or local government) commits a federal felony when she or he:

· assists an illegal alien s/he should reasonably know is illegally in the U.S. or who lacks employment authorization, by transporting, sheltering, or assisting him or her to obtain employment, or · encourages that illegal alien to remain in the U.S. by referring him or her to an employer or by acting as employer or agent for an employer in any way, or · knowingly assists illegal aliens due to personal convictions. ·

Penalties upon conviction include criminal fines, imprisonment, and forfeiture of vehicles and real property used to commit the crime. Anyone employing or contracting with an illegal alien without verifying his or her work authorization status is guilty of a misdemeanor. Aliens and employers violating immigration laws are subject to arrest, detention, and seizure of their vehicles or property. In addition, individuals or entities who engage in racketeering enterprises that commit (or conspire to commit) immigration-related felonies are subject to private civil suits for treble damages and injunctive relief.

Recruitment and Employment of Illegal Aliens

It is unlawful to hire an alien, to recruit an alien, or to refer an illegal alien for a fee, knowing the illegal alien is unauthorized to work in the United States. It is equally unlawful to continue to employ an illegal alien knowing that the illegal alien is unauthorized to work.

It is unlawful to hire any individual for employment in the United States without complying with employment eligibility verification requirements. Requirements include examination of identity documents and completion of Form I-9 for every employee hired. Employers must retain all I-9s, and, with three days' advance notice, the forms must be made available for inspection. Employment includes any service or labor performed for any type of remuneration within the United States, with the exception of sporadic domestic service by an individual in a private home. "Day laborers" or other casual workers engaged in any compensated activity (with the above exception) are employees for purposes of immigration law. An employer includes an agent or anyone acting directly or indirectly in the interest of the employer. For purposes of verification of authorization to work, employer also means an independent contractor, or a contractor other than the person using the illegal alien labor.

The use of temporary or short-term contracts cannot be used to circumvent the employment authorization verification requirements. If employment is to be for less than the usual three days allowed for completing the I-9 Form requirement, the form must be completed immediately at the time of hire.

An employer has constructive knowledge that an employee is an illegal unauthorized worker if a reasonable person would infer it from the facts. Constructive knowledge constituting a violation of federal law has been found where (1) the I-9 employment eligibility form has not been properly completed, including supporting documentation, (2) the employer has learned from other individuals, media reports, or any source of information available to the employer that the alien is unauthorized to work, or (3) the employer acts with reckless disregard for the legal consequences of permitting a third party to provide or introduce an illegal alien into the employer's work force. Knowledge cannot be inferred solely on the basis of an individual's accent or foreign appearance.

Actual specific knowledge is not required. For example, a newspaper article stating that ballrooms depend on an illegal alien work force of dance hostesses was held by the courts to be a reasonable ground for suspicion that unlawful conduct had occurred.

It is illegal for nonprofit or religious organizations to knowingly assist an employer to violate employment sanctions, regardless of claims that their convictions require them to assist illegal aliens. Harboring or aiding illegal aliens is not protected by the First Amendment. It is a felony to establish a commercial enterprise for the purpose of evading any provision of federal immigration law. Violators may be fined or imprisoned for up to five years.

Encouraging and Harboring Illegal Aliens

It is a violation of law for any person to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection in any place, including any building or means of transportation, any illegal alien who is in the United States in violation of law. Harboring means any conduct that tends to substantially facilitate an alien to remain in the U.S. illegally. The sheltering need not be clandestine, and harboring covers aliens arrested outdoors, as well as in a building. This provision includes harboring an alien who entered the U.S. legally but has since lost his legal status.

An employer can be convicted of the felony of harboring illegal aliens who are his employees if he takes actions in reckless disregard of their illegal status, such as ordering them to obtain false documents, altering records, obstructing INS inspections, or taking other actions that facilitate the alien's illegal employment. Any person who within any 12-month period hires ten or more individuals with actual knowledge that they are illegal aliens or unauthorized workers is guilty of felony harboring. It is also a felony to encourage or induce an alien to come to or reside in the U.S. knowing or recklessly disregarding the fact that the alien's entry or residence is in violation of the law. This crime applies to any person, rather than just employers of illegal aliens. Courts have ruled that "encouraging" includes counseling illegal aliens to continue working in the U.S. or assisting them to complete applications with false statements or obvious errors. The fact that the alien is a refugee fleeing persecution is not a defense to this felony, since U.S. law and the UN Protocol on Refugees both require that a refugee must report to immigration authorities without delay upon entry to the U.S.

The penalty for felony harboring is a fine and imprisonment for up to five years. The penalty for felony alien smuggling is a fine and up to ten years' imprisonment. Where the crime causes serious bodily injury or places the life of any person in jeopardy, the penalty is a fine and up to twenty years' imprisonment. If the criminal smuggling or harboring results in the death of any person, the penalty can include life imprisonment. Convictions for aiding, abetting, or conspiracy to commit alien smuggling or harboring, carry the same penalties. Courts can impose consecutive prison sentences for each alien smuggled or harbored. A court may order a convicted smuggler to pay restitution if the illegal alien smuggled qualifies as a victim under the Victim and Witness Protection Act. Conspiracy to commit crimes of sheltering, harboring, or employing illegal aliens is a separate federal offense punishable by a fine of up to $10,000 or five years' imprisonment.

Enforcement

A person or entity having knowledge of a violation or potential violation of employer sanctions provisions may submit a signed written complaint to the INS office with jurisdiction over the business or residence of the potential violator, whether an employer, employee, or agent. The complaint must include the names and addresses of both the complainant and the violator, and detailed factual allegations, including date, time, and place of the potential violation, and the specific conduct alleged to be a violation of employer sanctions. By regulation, the INS will only investigate third-party complaints that have a reasonable probability of validity. Designated INS officers and employees, and all other officers whose duty it is to enforce criminal laws, may make an arrest for violation of smuggling or harboring illegal aliens.

State and local law enforcement officials have the general power to investigate and arrest violators of federal immigration statutes without prior INS knowledge or approval, as long as they are authorized to do so by state law. There is no extant federal limitation on this authority. The 1996 immigration control legislation passed by Congress was intended to encourage states and local agencies to participate in the process of enforcing federal immigration laws. Immigration officers and local law enforcement officers may detain an individual for a brief warrantless interrogation where circumstances create a reasonable suspicion that the individual is illegally present in the U.S. Specific facts constituting a reasonable suspicion include evasive, nervous, or erratic behavior; dress or speech indicating foreign citizenship; and presence in an area known to contain a concentration of illegal aliens. Hispanic appearance alone is not sufficient. Immigration officers and police must have a valid warrant or valid employer's consent to enter workplaces or residences. Any vehicle used to transport or harbor illegal aliens, or used as a substantial part of an activity that encourages illegal aliens to come to or reside in the U.S. may be seized by an immigration officer and is subject to forfeiture. The forfeiture power covers any conveyances used within the U.S.

RICO —Citizen Recourse

Private persons and entities may initiate civil suits to obtain injunctions and treble damages against enterprises that conspire to or actually violate federal alien smuggling, harboring, or document fraud statutes, under the Racketeer-Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO). The pattern of racketeering activity is defined as commission of two or more of the listed crimes. A RICO enterprise can be any individual legal entity, or a group of individuals who are not a legal entity but are associated in fact, and can include nonprofit associations.

Tax Crimes

Employers who aid or abet the preparation of false tax returns by failing to pay income or Social Security taxes for illegal alien employees, or who knowingly make payments using false names or Social Security numbers, are subject to IRS criminal and civil sanctions. U.S. nationals who have suffered intentional discrimination because of citizenship or national origin by an employer with more than three employees may file a complaint within 180 days of the discriminatory act with the Special Counsel for Immigration-Related Unfair Employment Practices, U.S. Department of Justice. In addition to the federal statutes summarized, state laws and local ordinances controlling fair labor practices, workers compensation, zoning, safe housing and rental property, nuisance, licensing, street vending, and solicitations by contractors may also apply to activities that involve illegal aliens.

Comment:

A comment and a published quote by Robert Gaffney, Attorney and County Executive of Suffolk County, LI, NY:

The statutory foundation of United States immigration law has always been the jurisdiction of the federal government, Congress and the federal courts. The preeminent laws concerning the employment of illegal aliens are found in the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. §~ 1101-1503), as amended by the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 CIRCA).

The law states it is a crime to assist an illegal alien who lacks employment authorization by referring him to an employer, or by acting as his or her employer, or as an agent for an employer. 8 U.S.C.S. § 1324a(a)(1)(A) (Lexis 1997). Furthermore, it is unlawful to hire an individual for employment without complying with the employment eligibility requirements for every person hired. 8 U.S.C.S. § 1324a(a)(l)(B) (Lexis 1997). Moreover, conduct tending substantially to facilitate illegal aliens remaining in the United States illegally, where there is knowledge or a reckless disregard of an illegal alien s unlawful status, is a crime, with escalating penalties, encompassed within the provisions of 1324. 8 U.S.C.S. § 1324(a)(l)(A)(iii) (Lexis 1997); United States v. Kim. 193 F-3d 567 (2d Cir. 1999), are considered employees for purposes of immigration law.

Anybody ever look up the Constitution, Article 4 Section 4 once in a while?

Sounds to me like we are living under an anarchist government...And to think we have to argue the 2nd ammendment!

Sounds to me like we are living under ~~an anarchist~~ a socialist government.

Please excuse me for taking the liberty.

If you go to a hospital in Arizona the staff are informed not to ask about insurance benefits

Actually, that's not quite true. At least, not down here in Sierra Vista. The admissions clerks always cover with the patient how their care will be paid for. If they don't have insurance, they aren't turned away. The clerks complete applications for AHCCCS, Arizona's Medicaid program...or, the patient goes with 'Cash Apply' and is billed.

Now comes the fun part. If the patient is an illegal or a deadbeat, they give a phony name and address. If AHCCCS is denied, the hospital turns around and bills the patient; but the bill goes unpaid because the billing address is a fake.

That's how illegals and deadbeats are driving up medical costs for the rest of us here in Arizona.

First it is drug dealers killing drug dealers. That is a good thing. Second an AR-15 isn’t an assault rifle. Third, these kinds of things have always been dealt with by law inforcement.

“You can always prevent illegal immigrants from coming to America for work by punishing those who make the work available.

The government can’t stop drug dealers, thay’ve proven that. And besides, it is the government who makes their “jobs” available by making drugs illegal”

OH REALLY!!!!!!!!!! Is it the government who also helps the kidnapping rings? You have no idea the crime wave that this illegal third world invasion is going to bring to America. The Mexican Mafia already has kidnapping rings residing in San Diego. They kidnap Americans and take them across the border into TJ for ransom.

My son was taken to St. Joseph's Hospital twice. I asked the staff why I was not asked for insurance information on both occasions and I was told that I would not be asked until later or before release. That was in 07 and 08. I was told they cannot ask due to anti-descrimination policies.

Of course hospitals are private businesses, and that was the policy there.

"That's how illegals and deadbeats are driving up medical costs for the rest of us here in Arizona."

Bingo!

1. Build a fence similar to the one Israel just built
2. Fine, take away $10,000 in foreign aid, from the country of origin from where the apprehended illegal comes from.(Mexico would start patrolling its own borders)
3. No more anchor babies.
4. Fine employers who hire illegals.
5. No more free social services to illegals, that includes housing, medical, schooling, food stamps etc...
6. A 5 year deportation program. They all didn’t come here at once.
7. Allow local law enforcement to check identification for US citizenship.

There is a start for you MARAJADE!!!!!!