The most troubling—i.e., “troubling”—thing I’ve seen on FR is this: the claim that since only Obama’s mother was a citizen at the time of his birth, Obama would be a natural-born citizen ONLY if his mother had been living a minimum of ten years in the U.S., with a minumum of five of those years AFTER her sixteenth birthday. Since she was 18 when Obama was born, this seems like prima facie proof that Obama is not a natural-born citizen!
Note that the PLACE of Obama’s birth is irrelevant, according to this argument. The data that prove Obama NOT a natural-born citizen are already known with certainty: 1) his father was not a citizen; 2) his mother was 18 years old.
“Obama would be a natural-born citizen ONLY if his mother had been living a minimum of ten years in the U.S., with a minumum of five of those years AFTER her sixteenth birthday. Since she was 18 when Obama was born, this seems like prima facie proof that Obama is not a natural-born citizen!”
I believe that only applies IF Obama was Not Born in the USA. According to the 14th Amendment, anyone born in the US is a natural born citizen. That includes the children of illegal aliens who are Not citizens.
The only way Obama could be disqualified on the basis that he is not a natural born citizen would be if he was not born in the US. Some have speculated that he may have been born in Kenya (British East Africa then) and that is why his certificate looks like it could be a fake.
The most troubling—i.e., “troubling”—thing I’ve seen on FR is this: the claim that since only Obama’s mother was a citizen at the time of his birth, Obama would be a natural-born citizen ONLY if his mother had been living a minimum of ten years in the U.S., with a minumum of five of those years AFTER her sixteenth birthday. Since she was 18 when Obama was born, this seems like prima facie proof that Obama is not a natural-born citizen!
Note that the PLACE of Obama’s birth is irrelevant, according to this argument. The data that prove Obama NOT a natural-born citizen are already known with certainty: 1) his father was not a citizen; 2) his mother was 18 years old.
This argument is incorrect, in that Obama’s place of birth is most certainly relevant. The provision that requires that the mother lived in the U.S. for 5 years after her sixteenth birthday applies only to people born outside of the US. For people born within the U.S., the 14th amendment is the relevant provision, and under that amendment, anyone born in the U.S. is a citizen. So, in short, if Obama was born in Hawaii, he’s a natural-born citizen and eligible; if Obama was not born in the U.S., he’s not a natural-born citizen, and is ineligible.
Yes it is, according to the 14th Amendment: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." The only exception are children born to foreign diplomats and the like.
I think the true identity of his father is the most obscure part of the whole story.