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PROVEN: Barack Obama Presented Forged Certificate of Live Birth
Today.com ^ | 6/25/08 | Virginia Shanahan

Posted on 06/25/2008 8:52:46 AM PDT by pissant

Is Barack Obama a United States citizen, and is he eligible to run for President of the United States, or did he present a forged government document to verify a citizenship he does not possess? For a few weeks now these questions have been swirling around the internet. The questions have become so prominent that Obama addressed the issue on his “Fight the Smears” website. Of course, in typical Obama fashion it is becoming clear that nothing is as it seems.

His site says the following:

The truth about Barack’s birth certificate

Lie: Obama Is Not a Natural Born Citizen

Truth: Senator Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961, after it became a state on August 21st, 1959. Obama became a citizen at birth under the first section of the 14th Amendment “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

There it is, the Certification of Live Birth. Case closed. Or is it? Two sources have raised what has proven to be very interesting, and troubling questions. Polarik, a blogger from Townhall.com, and the israelinsider, have both posted compelling evidence that can no longer be ignored, or brushed off as ridiculous.

Friday, June 20, 2008, Polarik, who claims to have extensive experience in the world of computers, printers, and typewriters, wrote “given a set of printed letters, I can discern what kind of device made them. Printer output is quite different from the text created by a graphics program, and even if a document looks “official,” it may not be.” He goes on to claim that anyone could have produced this document, and then proceeds to point out every flaw imaginable with this alleged certificate. Because his article is so detailed, and technical, I advise my readers to follow the link and read it for yourself. Have no fear. He has visuals to help you make sense of it.

Yesterday morning I read an article in the Israelinsider, written by Reuven Koret. Koret’s article eliminates any lingering question as to whether or not the Certificate of Live Birth is a forgery/fake.

Koret begins his article by linking to Photobucket, an image gathering website, where millions upload images to share with others, or post in various places such as websites, etc. It shows variations of the same Certificate of Live Birth presented by the Obama camp. One has Obama’s birthplace listed as Antarctica, while another shows one issued by the government of North Korea. This certainly lends credibility to Polariks argument that the Certificate of Live Birth was created by some sort of computer program, that anyone can use.

According to Koret, Janice Okubo, Director of Communications of the State of Hawaii Department of Health made clear that no birth certification, or certification of live birth is transmitted electronically, and that all certificates of live birth contain an embossed seal and registrar’s signature on the back of the document.

He then compares the 1961 Certification of Live Birth, presented as authentic on the Obama website, to one certifying the Hawaiian birth of a Patricia Decosta. The similarities and differences are quite noticeable.

Both contain a green bamboo background, though one is noticeably darker. Both contain borders that are noticeably different. Obama’s is green, and Decosta’s is black. Polarik did a fabulous job of pointing out the obvious flaws on the border of Obama’s alleged certificate.

The most compelling and disturbing items of note are the lack of an embossed seal and the registrar’s signature, on the copy being presented by Obama. Decosta’s seal, even faded with time is quite prominent, as is the registrar’s signature that bleeds through to the front of the document. The lack of these two items makes it clear that the copy presented by Obama is in fact a fake.

This raises many more questions and concerns. Why would Obama knowingly lie, and present a forged government document as official? Why does Obama refuse to present his real birth certificate, for inspection – the actual piece of paper that can be handled by reporters? Is Barack Obama a citizen of the United States? Is he eligible for the highest office of this great nation? Lastly, what laws has Obama and his camp broken by knowingly presenting a forged government document?


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; obama
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To: Aria

I agree...Barry Hussein scares me silly.


41 posted on 06/25/2008 9:12:41 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: maica

They aren’t that smart.


42 posted on 06/25/2008 9:13:01 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
Shouldn't a candidate have to prove he is eligible for the presidential office if asked? What is the big deal to keeping it secret, if asked, unless you have something to hide?
43 posted on 06/25/2008 9:14:00 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: All

Compare the 2 examples yourself:

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn227/Polarik/BO_Birth_Certificate.jpg

http://www.valeehill.net/genealogy/documents/doc_decosta_pat_birth.jpg


44 posted on 06/25/2008 9:14:34 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: pissant
What could possibly be worth hiding?
Father's Name: Lucifer (aliases: The Beast, The Prince of Darkness)?
Father's Race: Demon?
Birthmarks: Three 6's on top of baby's head...?

I don't know -- seems like much ado about nothing to me -- albeit I enjoy the entertainment diversions on these threads...

45 posted on 06/25/2008 9:17:26 AM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: pissant
Regardless of what happens with this, Hussein Obama Mugabe will be the first President with a foreign born father if he is elected.

In his father's country and most other places on Earth, that means he inherits nationality from that country through his father.

In what way can we say that such a person's loyalty to the United States is absolute and un-questioned?

46 posted on 06/25/2008 9:17:44 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: AlaskaErik
B Hussein Obama may just be toying with conservatives

The only thing B Hussein Obama is smart enough to toy with is himself.There is something here and it will be found out shortly.

47 posted on 06/25/2008 9:18:14 AM PDT by The Cajun
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To: mnehrling
Real proof would probably be the Hawiian records department declaring there is not or a different certificate for him or a different certificate appearing for Barry that has different information.

I think that's true, but I have my doubts that they would do that. Wouldn't a BC be considered confidential? I heard years ago that Jimmy Carter's campaign had his BC sealed. I don't know if that's true either. But would someone have to go through the process of having it sealed to make it unavailable?

48 posted on 06/25/2008 9:19:56 AM PDT by twigs
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To: rawhide
McCain has already proved his eligibility now Obama should.
49 posted on 06/25/2008 9:20:31 AM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: Regulator

I think there’s plenty of reasons to believe that he isn’t all that loyal to the USA - he’d turn us into the UN if he could - with special rights for Africans no matter their deeds.


50 posted on 06/25/2008 9:20:40 AM PDT by Aria
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To: Miss Didi
We survived eight years of Bill Clinton...so Hillary doesn't scare me at all...but President Obama...sends chills thru me.

The Clinton machine was let us down...if this birth certificate thing trully had 'legs' it would have been outed by the Clintonistas...

51 posted on 06/25/2008 9:20:48 AM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (I am still bitter.)
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To: Aria

“As much as I despise Hillary, I don’t think she is an dangerous to our national security as Obama.”

I don’t, either. And I also think that because she may have alienated enough people during the campaign that she couldn’t get her way as President as easily as Obama, the Messiah.


52 posted on 06/25/2008 9:21:03 AM PDT by smalltownslick (All)
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To: Crimson Elephant
I now agree with others who have said this is probably a diversionary tactic. Diverting from what is interesting, but Obama is the first really internet savvy Presidential candidate. He “gets it” enough to think of giving the bloggers “make work” to occupy them for awhile, or at least get them off the scent of something else.

I don't believe there is anything internet saavy about this. The blogosphere is filled with numerous special interests each going after their own angle. However, there may be something MSM saavy about this. The blogosphere has what amounts to infinite attention to detail. However, the MSM are a bunch of ADHD nincompoops. They will discount the whole blogosphere if this turns out to be a dead end.

That will set up the MSM cover story for the rest of the campaign. Any new item will just be poo-pooed as yet another birth certificate/swift boat dead end.

That said they gave Senator McCain a hassle about his birth certificate is it too much to ask the same of the Illinois Senator?

By the way the last time I looked Obama went to law school and passed the bar. These guys are trained in handing over copious documents in the discovery phase of law suits. Obama as a Lawyer should be held to a higher standard. Obama as a presidential candidate should be held to an even higher standard than a lawyer.

53 posted on 06/25/2008 9:23:37 AM PDT by stig
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To: PennsylvaniaMom

Clinton Inc. may surprise us yet...expect any bombshell to come out in August.


54 posted on 06/25/2008 9:24:28 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: mnehrling

Just like John Fing Kerry’s military records.


55 posted on 06/25/2008 9:24:54 AM PDT by mortal19440
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To: Huck
I’m wondering, since the Constitution has specific age and national origin requirements, is there an official process that certifies that the candidates meet the requirements? Is anyone in the gubmint authorized to check? Or do we just wing it?

I'm pretty sure that the horrifying but true answer is: "we wing it".

If nothing else comes from this issue, I hope we will at LEAST institute a process for removing these sorts of doubts in the future, especially with the number of illegals in this country.

That being said, here are my bets for how this particular event plays out:
43.28% chance: image is an unprocessed scan of a legitimate document
22.52% chance: image is a 'touched up' scan of a legitimate document (rush job that got tweaked cosmetically)
34.21% chance: Obama is still eligible, but someone decided to cut corners and post a fake instead of waiting to get the real thing:
00.01% chance: It's a complete fake, and the real document would reveal some fact that Obama doesn't want revealed, anything from an extra middle name to an reason for ineligibility.
56 posted on 06/25/2008 9:25:23 AM PDT by beezdotcom
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To: pissant
According to this site:

http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html

He would be a natural-born citizen, and thus be eligible for the Presidency, even if he were born outside the US:

“... if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)”

His mother was a citizen who had lived at least 5 years in the US. As long as she was his mother, and he wasn't found under a rock or some such, his birth certificate is irrelevant.

End of story.

57 posted on 06/25/2008 9:26:26 AM PDT by Lamchops
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To: twigs

Well, Obama had his opponent Ryan’s divorce records UNSEALED, so he really can’t expect much sympathy if he gets defensive about his privacy.


58 posted on 06/25/2008 9:27:07 AM PDT by txhurl
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To: pissant
Both contain a green bamboo background, though one is noticeably darker. Both contain borders that are noticeably different. Obama’s is green, and Decosta’s is black. Polarik did a fabulous job of pointing out the obvious flaws on the border of Obama’s alleged certificate. The most compelling and disturbing items of note are the lack of an embossed seal and the registrar’s signature, on the copy being presented by Obama. Decosta’s seal, even faded with time is quite prominent,

Differences in the looks probably don't matter. I've requested my birth cirtificate ("certification of live birth", you never get the original) a few times over the years, and each one was different as the county used different types, sizes and patterns of paper.

However, ALL of them were embossed with a signature.

59 posted on 06/25/2008 9:27:53 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: pissant
"This document is as authentic as a Texas twister."
60 posted on 06/25/2008 9:28:41 AM PDT by rightinthemiddle (The Mainstream Media Controls Our Party. Go, RINOS!)
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