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Obama holds 12-point lead over McCain, poll finds
LA Times ^ | June 24th, 2008 | Doyle McManus

Posted on 06/24/2008 2:42:02 PM PDT by The_Republican

WASHINGTON -- -- Buoyed by enthusiasm among Democrats and public concern over the economy, Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) has captured a sizable lead over Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) at the opening of the general election campaign for president, the Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg Poll has found.

In a two-man race between the major party candidates, registered voters chose Obama over McCain by 49% to 37% in the national poll conducted last weekend.

On a four-man ballot including independent candidate Ralph Nader and Libertarian Bob Barr, voters chose Obama over McCain by an even larger margin, 48% to 33%.

Obama's advantage, bigger in this poll than in most other national surveys, appears to stem in large part from his positions on domestic issues. Both Democrats and independent voters say Obama would do a better job than McCain at handling the nation's economic problems, the public's top concern.

In contrast, many voters give McCain credit as the more experienced candidate and the one best equipped to protect the nation against terrorism -- but they rank those concerns below their worries about the economy.

Moreover, McCain suffers from a pronounced "enthusiasm gap," especially among the conservatives who usually give Republican candidates a reliable base of support. Among voters who describe themselves as conservative, only 58% say they will vote for McCain; 15% say they will vote for Obama, 14% say they will vote for someone else, and 13% say they are undecided.

By contrast, 79% of voters who describe themselves as liberal say they plan to vote for Obama.

Even among voters who say they do plan to vote for McCain, more than half say they are "not enthusiastic" about their chosen candidate; only 45% say they are enthusiastic. By contrast, 81% of Obama voters say they are enthusiastic......................................................................................................................

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008polls; barr; dogtrainer; electionpresident; losangelestimes; mccain; nader; obama; rino
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1 posted on 06/24/2008 2:42:02 PM PDT by The_Republican
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To: The_Republican

This is crazy! How the Republicans get handed the bad economy when the DEMs have been in charge is beyond me.


2 posted on 06/24/2008 2:43:35 PM PDT by avacado
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To: The_Republican

That 12-point lead is in the LA Times newsroom.


3 posted on 06/24/2008 2:44:40 PM PDT by keithtoo (How come America's enemies and the Dimocrats always find common cause?)
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To: The_Republican

Four of the last five elections, the leader of the polls in June, went on to lose the election.

So without even one debate or convention yet,
These polls are incredibly meaningless at this point.

Dukakis was ahead by large margins too.


4 posted on 06/24/2008 2:44:43 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: avacado

The Media...


5 posted on 06/24/2008 2:44:58 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: The_Republican

Must be an “exit” poll, like the one that told us Kerry won on the night of the last presidential election.


6 posted on 06/24/2008 2:45:04 PM PDT by pleikumud
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To: The_Republican
June polling in an election year is so....relevant. Let's just inaugurate Bambi & be done with it.
7 posted on 06/24/2008 2:45:35 PM PDT by floozy22
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To: The_Republican

“Among voters who describe themselves as conservative, only 58% say they will vote for McCain; 15% say they will vote for Obama, 14% say they will vote for someone else, and 13% say they are undecided.”

Ok, conservatives are upset with McCain, so 15% of those will vote for Obama? That alone makes this poll very suspect.


9 posted on 06/24/2008 2:46:01 PM PDT by WILLIALAL
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To: The_Republican
In this national poll's random sample of voters, 39% identified themselves as Democrats, 22% as Republicans, and 27% as independents. In a similar poll a year ago, 33% identified themselves as Democrats, 28% as Republicans, and 30% as independents.

oh DUH on the poll results. and the results aren't as good as they should be.
10 posted on 06/24/2008 2:46:15 PM PDT by stylin19a
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To: The_Republican

Wasn’t Obama like, 40 zillion percentage points ahead of McCain just last week?


11 posted on 06/24/2008 2:47:17 PM PDT by Catholic Canadian ( I love Stephen Harper!)
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To: The_Republican
Just because the MSM is trying to MAKE the 'news' instead of report it doesn't mean it is true!

What a bunch of loons. They want Obama as president so bad it makes them look more stupid every day. They have given up any resemblance of fairness and objectivity.

12 posted on 06/24/2008 2:48:33 PM PDT by kcvl
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I think that Obama does have capability for transforming some of the RVs to LVs.

However, this is STILL just a RV poll.

A bit bloated.

Real contest has not begun yet.

ONE Mis-step on any of the foreign policy issues and Obambi would be wiped out.

I did however find it a CAUSE FOR CONCERN that BARR and NADER are sucking votes from McCain.


13 posted on 06/24/2008 2:50:25 PM PDT by The_Republican (Conservatives are in trouble because they hate Scarlett Johanson.)
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To: The_Republican
Not in Nevada! LOL!

http://www.lvrj.com/hottopics/politics/polls/june_2008_3_polls.html

QUESTION: If the 2008 presidential election were held today, would you vote for Barack Obama, the Democrat, or John McCain, the Republican?

McCain - State - 44% Men - 49% Women - 39% Undecided - 14%

Obama - State - 42% Men - 37% Women - 47% Undecided - 14%

Undecided - 14%

Other good questions asked in poll as well.... ;)

14 posted on 06/24/2008 2:50:30 PM PDT by BossLady ("People will do anything, no matter how absurd, in order to avoid facing their own soul" - Carl Jung)
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To: The_Republican

I don’t think these polls mean a thing.

But I do worry that we’ll get a race to the bottom. The media still haven’t started to work on their great smear attack on McCain. Evidently they are holding their fire until the election is closer.

But then it will be all out, and there’s plenty of ammunition there for them to work with. Just wait until they start piling on.


15 posted on 06/24/2008 2:51:05 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: The_Republican
Buoyed by enthusiasm among Democrats and public concern over the economy

Horsesh**.

Numbers won't get me to accept these answers anymore.

Those who respond to the poll will have to include a brief (50 word or less) essay answer describing the merits of Obama's plan for fixing the economy over McCain's plan. If the majority of respondants cannot formulate a coherent summary of what each candidate's position is, I refuse to accept the noises from the peanut gallery.

Does anyone have any evidence that nationalizing the oil industry will improve the US economy?

16 posted on 06/24/2008 2:51:50 PM PDT by weegee (In 1988 Lenora Fulani was the 1st black woman to appear on presidential ballots in all 50 states)
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To: WILLIALAL
I doubt 58% of Conservatives will vote for McCain. McCain and Obama both are for amnesty, open borders, and voted against the Cronyn amendment - this means they are willing to sell out this country. McCain has no clue how to fight WOT and/or is unwilling to do it. Our biggest danger comes from open borders. The planes on 9/11 took off from American soil, not Iraq.
17 posted on 06/24/2008 2:53:47 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: avacado

It’s the enthusiasm thing. The frenetic and highly excited supporters of Barack Mohammed (since we are no longer to refer to his given middle name) Obama, Jr., the charismatic, messianic Magic Negro, are not excited about what he IS, but for what he permits them to imagine what he could be and do.

Reality is, the Presidency is not the ultimate power in the world, and there just won’t be time to get to all the details his supporters think he should be attending to.

Like Jimmy Carter, he will try to micromanage the entire administrative branch, and end up hopelessly tied down on the minutiae, unable to determine direction of policy.

George W. Bush will turn out to be of immense stature in comparison with this sock puppet of George Soros.


18 posted on 06/24/2008 2:55:20 PM PDT by alloysteel (A taxpayer voting for Obama - is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders.)
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To: Names Ash Housewares
Dukakis was ahead by large margins too.

The media TOLD us that Dookie was ahead by large margins whether it was true or not. They also gave his sister an Oscar even though she hasn't been heard of in any Hollywood "A-list" sense before or since.

Having lived up there in 1988, everyone I encountered knew that the "Massachusetts Miracle" was a myth. A lie. Propaganda to sweep him into the White House.

19 posted on 06/24/2008 2:55:20 PM PDT by weegee (In 1988 Lenora Fulani was the 1st black woman to appear on presidential ballots in all 50 states)
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To: weegee

‘Lympie was his cuz.


20 posted on 06/24/2008 2:57:59 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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