Haditha Transcript: Where Judge Folsum Saw Injustice

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The complete transcript of the hearing is HERE on Defend Our Marines.

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BTW, our pal Nat must be up to his ears in water again. Prayers are up for him and his family.

[Lurker]

Quite the Judicial smackdown, that.

Semper Fi.

L

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Exactly.

I excerpted those sections in which Judge Folsum ripped Col Ewers a new one...

Where Judge Folsum saw serious injustice that rose beyond the level of possible UCI, but actually sounds like Folsum sees UCI with intent or UCI due to willful negligence.

It sounds like more than “appearance.”

Interestingly, he rules against “with prejudice” based on whether he believes this can be redone and LTC Chessani can eventually receive a fair trial.

Personally, I don’t believe LtCol Chessani can ever get a fair trial now, not with Gen Mattis at 4-Star level in charge of Joint Forces, not if the UCI was intentional or willful negligence.

[jazusamo]

WOW! As a laymen I read that as being a pretty strong indication that Col. Folsom was darned upset with Sullivan. I don’t see any way his appeal will get any traction.

[gunnedah]

Military Hiarchy is as corrupt as Congress.

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Military Hiarchy is as corrupt as Congress.

[gunnedah]

Wonder how Murtha got to them and what he promised?

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As I read the whole transcript, I was amazed at the firmness that characterized Folsum’s words.

Earlier in the transcript he had mentioned this really damning piece of evidence:

They were told that Col Ewers was tainted. I don’t recall who they were told by, but he indicates they were told.

He also says later that it was amazing that no one in that room of lawyers saw the potential for UCI.

[smoothsailing]

Thanks guys. I just can't fathom how an appeal will get anywhere. But we've seen some strange turns before...

[lilycicero]

Ah.

[Mr. Lucky]

If Col. Ewers was the senior lawyer in the room, no one was going to point it out to him. The judge found the whole episode pregnant with the intimidation of subordinate officers.

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Colonel Ewers, whose demeanor as a witness revealed him to be a senior officer who while on the stands was at times frustrated and exasperated and occasionally mumbling under his breath prior to responding to a question that posed a differing version of the facts than his.

That Folsum included this is telling. If Ewers couldn't control his mumbling when in a courtroom when someone said something he disagreed with, does one really believe he sat stone-faced in those legal meetings when someone said something he disagreed with.

Or did he "start mumbling under his breath" and all the lawyers then knew they had to go a different direction?

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See #16

[jude24]

Colonel Ewers, whose demeanor as a witness revealed him to be a senior officer who while on the stands was at times frustrated and exasperated and occasionally mumbling under his breath prior to responding to a question that posed a differing version of the facts than his.

Weird. I can't think of an innocuous explanation. I almost wonder if it's a "you can't handle the truth!" type moment.

[river rat]

Murtha MUST have at least one significant conviction....

Murtha’s financial future REQUIRES that conviction for cover - -to defend himself against the civil suits that will follow him the rest of his miserable life...

Murtha sits in a position that can make life MISERABLE for the military -— both career wise and appropriations wise.

Murtha will be backed up to the hilt - by a Democrat controlled congress who to a significant degree “loath the military”...

In my opinion — A conviction will have serious and long lived repercussions in the Marine Corps — far beyond anyone’s imagination.....

This is a BIG DEAL...

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That is a damning characterization, and far different from the “potted plant” Gen Mattis made him out to be.