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NOW let's compare "apples to apples" [Obama birth certificate controvery, part 2]
Townhall ^ | 6/22/08 | Polarik

Posted on 06/23/2008 3:45:52 PM PDT by freespirited

 

NOW let's compare "apples to apples"

Or, since this involves Hawaii, "pineapples to pineapples:"

With many thanks to Bloggers TexasDarlin, Freeper, and Shainzona, I am posting a copy of Hawaiian-born, Patricia Decosta's certified "Certification of Live Birth," which is what this Certification should look like. If you go back to the points I raised in my original post, specifically about the differences in typeface, letter artifacts, and the border, these points are further reinforced from comparing Decosta's certified document with Obama's uncertified one.

Once again, here is Obama's uncertified (and suspect) "Certification of Live Birth":

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And, now, Ms. Decosta's certified (and not suspect) "Certification of Live Birth:"


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For comparison purposes, I created a cropped image of each that are approximately the same dimensions in terms of image height and text height. Additionally, each image -- one for Obama's and one for Decosta's -- has approximately the same amount of JPG compression.

Before comparing these and deconstructing them, I draw your attention to the previous images showing the entire certificates. Both have the same "tag line" indicating the form number and revision, OHSM 1.1 (Rev. 11/01) LASER, and the "prima facie evidence" statement.

Given that both have that same tag line, one can assume, for the moment, that this tag line does appear on valid COB's produced by the Office of Health Status Monitoring during the time that Rev. 11/01 was being used.

However, the thing that should jump out at you, besides the visual differences in the typefaces, are the obvious, visual differences in the borders.

But, first, let me reiterate what is my main contention about the images posted on the Daily Kos and Fight The Smears websites.

I maintain that a copy of a real, Hawaiian Certification of Live Birth was graphically modified to resemble what Obama's "Certification of Live Birth" might look like, IF, and only IF, it were a genuine reproduction of a genuine document.

Thus, the crux of my argument is as follows:

Because the image of Obama's copy has so many distinct, visual differences from the image of a copy certified as accurate, like Ms. Decosta's, and that these visual differences represent what could only result from a deliberate, graphical modification of an existing image, that the image itself, and the paper copy it purports to represent, casts doubt on the validity of the claims made for them.

These claims are
that Barack Obama's "Certification of Live Birth" does exists somewhere, and that the JPG images posted on the Daily Kos and Fight The Smears websites are genuine reproductions of it.

As I highlighted in my first post, the evidence says otherwise. Here are close-up views of both the Obama and Decosta images:


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The typeface on the Decosta image is much darker and thicker, and has less kerning (spacing between the letters), than the Obama image. Moreover, the color of the green paper comes through almost all of the letters regardless of magnification or image compression.

By comparison, you will not see the grey and white pixels found between the letters on the Obama image.

When you enlarge the letters in the Decosta image, they all tend to remain solid, especially letters like "I, L, B, E, H," that continue to look the same no matter how large you make them. Conversely, when you enlarge the letters in the Obama image, they start to fall apart -- that is, they start losing pixels. This is exactly what happens to bitmapped text created by a graphics program.

OK, now let's compare the borders of both images.

In the Obama image -- or, should I say, "images," because the edges of the vertical borders in the Kos image overlap the horizontal ones, whereas the Smears image has them lining up -- the pattern is different from the Decosta image.


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The borders in the Obama image might be extremely faint versions of the Decosta image, but then why is so much image information missing, if not because it was a bad reproduction to begin with.

Other bloggers have already noted the reversed, embossed seals and signature imprints that appear on the Decosta image but which are totally absent on the Obama image. The conclusion from this would be that the Obama image never had them, for if they did, wouldn't they be prominently shown as verification?

We still have more questions than answers


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; elections; obama; obamatruthfile
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To: ctdonath2

“His mother is an American citizen “

So if he was born in Canada instead of Hawaii, he would still be a US citizen because his mother is American?


141 posted on 06/24/2008 12:14:30 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: ctdonath2
"If it were genuine, the certificate number would not be any of our business."

Nonsense!

The document number is everybody's business, since its there so we can verify the document's authenticity. It has no other purpose.

142 posted on 06/24/2008 12:29:10 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Jimmy Carter is the skidmark in the panties of American History)
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To: The Tin Foil Hat

Barbara Streisand by the ton.

He’s doing it, with the help of useful idiots like yourself.


143 posted on 06/24/2008 12:32:00 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Jimmy Carter is the skidmark in the panties of American History)
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To: ctdonath2
If it IS an official copy, consistent with current practices, then presenting it as a true copy is legit and BHO is not lying about it. For all the hysteria, there's no smoking gun yet.

What, are you scared to seek the truth for fear others might think you're looney?

First of all there are inconsistancies surrounding this which question the validity of the document. Secondly, two different sources name two different places BHO was born.

I'm going question and seek the answers because I do not trust this man or his cohorts. He has definately lied about his involment in a church which preaches "hate" America.

BTW, if it's not an "Official Copy" of BHO BC do you think the Obama camp will give me a straight answer because of the incosistancies we found in the document? And if they don't, what are they hiding, and why are they hiding?

If you don't think it's worth the time to question the validy of the document with so many errors, and why they would put out something erroneous, then go sit on the bench with McCain and let the adults play the game.

144 posted on 06/24/2008 3:17:32 PM PDT by sirchtruth (Vote Conservative Repuplican!!)
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To: freespirited
this animated gif image goes back and forth between obama's birth certificate and a real birth certificate. note the missing seal, the blacked out certificate number and the differences along the edges of the seal. in order to show detail this is a high mg download.

this writer examines the writing in detail and shows why much of the writing on obama's birth certificate was photo shopped.

This is a google search of birth certificate obama. This story is steadily making its way up the info food chain.

This link gives the growing list of posts at free republic on obama's birth certificate.
145 posted on 06/28/2008 3:48:30 PM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: devane617

Perhaps someone else has already addressed this. I didn’t have time to read all of the entries.

I see the point of the arguments being made, however one thing leaps out at me.

The Decosta document says “State” of Hawaii. Hawaii didn’t become a state until 1959, but Ms. Decosta’s birth year is listed as 1930. How could this be the original birth certificate?

Both documents have the word LASER in the lower left hand corner. Are they both laser printed reformattings of the original records, using two different types of paper? Someone else has pointed out that there were no laser printers in 1961.

The thing that bothers me the most about the Obama certificate is the blacked out certificate number. What was the need of blacking it out? I think that this is what really needs to be answered.


146 posted on 10/23/2008 4:20:18 AM PDT by stthomas55
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