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Conservative Blacks Choose Pigment Over Principle
townhall.com ^ | June 22, 2008 | Nina May

Posted on 06/22/2008 6:20:31 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

n the mid 1980’s I debated Gloria Steinhem on the Phil Donahue show, during the presidential campaign where Geraldine Ferraro was the first woman Vice Presidential candidate. The assumption by feminists, like Gloria, was that all women should vote for Geraldine because she was a woman. I asked her if she would be supporting Phyllis Schlafly if she were the candidate instead of Geraldine and if she would be offended if I made that same assumption.

When Allen Keyes was running for president, as probably one of the most brilliant candidates we have ever seen, he was ignored by the liberal media and the black community because, as a black Republican, he was deemed either irrelevant or out of touch. I often wondered if he had been the first black Democrat running for office if he would have been treated better, and then I had my answer in Barack Obama.

What is it about this man that has thoughtful, conservative blacks like Armstrong Williams and JC Watts saying they might vote for him? It can’t be his left of left politics that makes even Ted Kennedy look conservative. What thinking conservative could actually support a man who is going to raise taxes, increase the size of government, redistribute wealth, burden small businesses and the working class, and play nice with people who want to destroy us? It can’t just be about his skin color otherwise they would have been huge supporters of Allen Keyes when he ran for president, and as I recall, neither were.

Armstrong explains his position by saying, ''I don't necessarily like his [Barack’s] policies; I don't like much of what he advocates, but for the first time in my life, history thrusts me to really seriously think about it.'' JC Watts, former Republican congressman from Oklahoma,

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KEYWORDS: allenwest; armstrongwilliams; blackconservatives; blackpresident; jcwatts
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To: TribalPrincess2U

“Did ya really think it would be different?”

I hoped, I really did. I am very disillusioned on this issue.


41 posted on 06/22/2008 7:09:55 PM PDT by Marie2 (It's time for a ban on handgun bans)
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To: JaneNC

Many conservatives right here on FR say there is no difference between the two candidates. So what is problem with voting for a man because of his race? It is eenie-meanie-minie-mo.

I think it is two-face for some people here (I don’t know if you are one, I’m not saying you are) to state it makes no difference to vote because McCain and Obama have the same policies and then say it is also wrong for some to see race as a “tie-breaker” between the two.


42 posted on 06/22/2008 7:11:01 PM PDT by wo fat
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To: All; Free ThinkerNY

I hate to say this, but it makes me wonder if I should support Black conservatives any more, if race trumps prolife and other conservatism. How do I know which conservative Blacks will disappoint me, and which ones won’t?

And even the ones who remain loyal to prolife, and other conservatism, how do I know if they will put other Blacks in power positions, rather than the best person for the job?

I contributed campaign $$ to at least two conservative Black politicians, but don’t know if I will again, unless I’m ABSOLUTELY sure they will put CONSERVATISM before race!

I am part Italian but would never support Giuliani, because he is an antilife, LIBERAL.

Come to think of it, maybe I will e-mail J.C. Watts and Armstrong with my thoughts.


43 posted on 06/22/2008 7:11:14 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: L.N. Smithee

One candidate I don’t blame Williams or Watts for not supporting is definitely Alan Keyes.

If he could have ever gotten elective office and showed his mettle there, his qualifications would have quadrupled. But he couldn’t.

Many factors might be blamed, but the most telling one is that Keyes is a preacher and pontificator. He is angry and shouts his message. His point is “they’re ALL wrong...ALL of ‘em, except for ME”.

It doesn’t work.

When will people learn that and admit that??


44 posted on 06/22/2008 7:11:39 PM PDT by txrangerette (Just say "no" to the Obama Cult.)
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To: OKIEDOC

Not “just” abortion - he’s excited to kill the occasional living child delivered after a failed abortion.

Unbelievably wicked.


45 posted on 06/22/2008 7:11:55 PM PDT by Marie2 (It's time for a ban on handgun bans)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“When Allen Keyes was running for president, as probably one of the most brilliant candidates we have ever seen”

ROTFLMAO!! What kind of crack is the author smoking??

“What is it about this man that has thoughtful, conservative blacks like Armstrong Williams and JC Watts saying they might vote for him?”

Armstrong Williams is neither thoughtful or conservative but a paid for political hack whoring himself out for $$$. And no, its not excusable that the Bush Administration was the one writing the checks.


46 posted on 06/22/2008 7:12:43 PM PDT by KantianBurke (President Bush, why did you abandon Specialist Ahmed Qusai al-Taei?)
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To: Theodore R.

Why should J.C. Watts vote for McCain? Many other conservatives refuse. If he won’t vote for McCain, why not vote for Obama, why not?


47 posted on 06/22/2008 7:12:43 PM PDT by wo fat
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To: MarkL
And is voting for someone because of their race "less racist" than voting against that person because of their race?

Here's what I keep hearing many principled conservatives saying: they want someone to vote FOR. They are tired of voting AGAINST someone.

Okay, so some conservative blacks want to vote FOR someone, too. They don't want to vote AGAINST Obama and they can't vote for Mccain.

48 posted on 06/22/2008 7:18:31 PM PDT by wo fat
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To: DAC21
Alan Keyes is 3 x the intellect of Barry, where was JC?

Keyes is abundantly qualified and can't get the time of day from blacks.

B. Hussein "Osama"* Obama plagiarizes Bill Cosby, Cosby is trashed and blacks sing the Hallelujah chorus to Obama.

Entitlement and victim hood has made many blacks logic dysfunctional.

*Sen. Edward Kennedy

49 posted on 06/22/2008 7:20:39 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (John McCain, the Manchurian Candidate.)
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To: VRWC For Truth

Blaming black conservatives for maybe voting for Obama is not winning strategy either when there is no GOP candidate to vote for.


50 posted on 06/22/2008 7:21:03 PM PDT by wo fat
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To: L.N. Smithee
Watts said that his remark about Obama being more dedicated to issues of poverty and urban policy

In a way, this was brilliant set-up for failure of Obama because no donkey policy on poverty or urban issues CAN succeed, even if pursued by a dedicated black man who empathize with young, poor, single mothers.

They get policy wrong because they get human nature wrong. There is no possibility Obama can succeed in wiping out poverty than LBJ did.

51 posted on 06/22/2008 7:24:14 PM PDT by wo fat
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Before this, I was a big JC Watts fan; now, I see, he’s just another racial whore. What next, JC, reparations? Oh, that’s right trillions in welfare is just a small part of that, but you and yours need more, lots more from Whitey.


52 posted on 06/22/2008 7:27:04 PM PDT by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: wo fat

Voting for President should be more about the candidates character than particular positions on issues. No one knows what issues will be thrust upon a President. No one knew that 9/11 would be thrust upon George W. Bush. So I put it to many of you on FR. Who is the man of better character in 2008? Truthfulness is part of character. Who is more truthful? McCain or Obama?


53 posted on 06/22/2008 7:47:04 PM PDT by Binghamton_native
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To: rdb3

“Some” in front of the headline would be a bit more helpful.


54 posted on 06/22/2008 7:48:40 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

JC Watts or Armstrong Williams voting for Obama is not too surprising. We’ll know that hell has frozen over if Clarence Thomas votes for Obama.


55 posted on 06/22/2008 7:52:42 PM PDT by library user
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Actually, Armstrong Williams’ comments were out of context. Basically he said he wishes he could be “part of history” and vote for the first black President, but he can’t, because Obama is not the man who should be it. At least that’s how he explained it from what I heard.


56 posted on 06/22/2008 7:53:16 PM PDT by RockinRight (I just paid $63 for gas. An icefield in Alaska is NOT the Grand Canyon. F--- the caribou.)
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To: Fox_Mulder77
Some of us still remember the LT Col for other things as well. The Army drove away one hell of an officer.
57 posted on 06/22/2008 7:58:05 PM PDT by Dawnsblood
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To: Dawnsblood

Don’t bring Michael Steele into this, he has EMPHATICALLY stated he will NOT vote for Obama and will work hard to defeat him.


58 posted on 06/22/2008 7:59:07 PM PDT by RockinRight (I just paid $63 for gas. An icefield in Alaska is NOT the Grand Canyon. F--- the caribou.)
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To: All
I just told Armstrong Williams how I feel, and you can, too! Here's his e-mail: info@armstrongwilliams.com If I had J.C. Watts's e-mail, I would contact him, as well.
59 posted on 06/22/2008 8:01:31 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

This election campaign has exposed what is in the heads of black folks. JC Watts has been a hero in the Sooner State. He essentially has lived a lie! A vote for Osam....bama by Watts reveals him to be a hypocrite of the highest order....yes, even a RACIST....when the color of skin transcends common sense and spiritual values!


60 posted on 06/22/2008 8:02:29 PM PDT by Doctor Don
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