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To: purpleraine; BykrBayb; wagglebee

>>The father’s rights and responsibilites supercede the cousins etc.

I just about choked when I read this! I scrolled immediately to the top of the page to reassure I was still on FreeRepublic when I read your analysis of Elian and pops.

Elian’s “Father” is by most all measures Fidel Castro. Fidel superseded any rights the biological father may have expected. Elian’s “father” is the communist state. Period. That is how communism as in Cuba works.

Since it was all out in the open for reasonable people to see since it unfolded, only the most powerful of denial could filter out that simple truth. The truth glares in the fate of poor little Elian, now as much a puppet of the communist state as Howdy Doody and his dad as Mortimer Snerd.

It is possible you may still find support from a few remaining closet liberals on this forum, or those who substitute emotion for rational thought or have a specific blind spot but otherwise you are solidly in the company of the far left when you make preposterous claims like that.

There is no rational defense for this atrocity, only the defense proffered by the communists and their sympathizers on the left and those blinded to the facts.


44 posted on 06/23/2008 10:10:39 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
Elian’s “Father” is by most all measures Fidel Castro. Fidel superseded
any rights the biological father may have expected. Elian’s “father”
is the communist state. Period.
That is how communism as in Cuba works.


It was fascinating to read the divided opinion on FR during
L'Affaire Elian.

My inexpert suspicion was that those supporting Elian staying in
the USA (with visits or immigration by his father to the USA)
are just old enough to remember more details of The Cold War.

And just didn't trust "The Liberator of Cuba" to be anything other
than the his old self...pimping Communism and trying to give it
a big Fig-leaf of having "family values".

I don't knock those with the oppossing opinion to return Elian
to Cuba based on "father's rights".

That's because we live in a relatively-free nation where people
have the right to voice all sorts of opinions without violence ensuing.

Unlike Cuba.
45 posted on 06/23/2008 10:37:30 AM PDT by VOA
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To: 8mmMauser
If you think parental rights and responsibilities don't belong on Free Republic, you have an odd definition of conservative. If you think snatching a kid and taking him away from a parent is conservative, then perhaps you should look for another site.

Funny, I didn't see Fidel's name in the court process as the father. If Fidel was the father then that means he went back to his father. Worse, you're no better than Fidel wanting to take control away from the parent. You'd be doing the same thing.

Reasonable people would follow up on your belief and get to the Mexico City airport and stop all those little commie kids from getting on the return flights to Havana. Be consistent.

Parental responsibility and rights are not a liberal idea, unless you're willing to turn it over to liberals. I'm not. Taking a kid away from his parent because he lives in Cuba is the worst kind of political nannystateism.

Rational is letting the surviving parent have the kid. Fighting to separate them is irrational

58 posted on 06/24/2008 12:03:39 PM PDT by purpleraine
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To: 8mmMauser; BykrBayb; wagglebee; Tailgunner Joe; devolve; Grampa Dave; MeekOneGOP

85 posted on 06/24/2008 2:11:24 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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