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McCain Promises Hispanics He'll Revive 'Comprehensive Immigration Reform' Measures
Publius' Forum ^ | 6/22/08 | Warner Todd Huston

Posted on 06/22/2008 11:21:50 AM PDT by Mobile Vulgus

Last year, the so-called Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2007 (Senate bill 1348) went down to a resounding defeat thanks to the vigilance of talk-radio and the blogs. John McCain was a leading voice in favor of passage in the Senate.

Since that defeat, John McCain has claimed that he has "gotten the message" that the country does not want the McCain version of "comprehensive reform" and he has avoided the issue in most campaign appearances.

But Juan McCain still lurks inside of John McCain. Read the rest at Publius' Forum.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; aliens; amnesty; cira; elections; gop; hispanicvote; immigrantlist; immigration; johnmccain; mccain
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To: MovementConservative
I think Bush and McCain are on the right track with expanding the temporary worker program.

There's already guest worker programs available that allows farmers to bring in legally all the workers they need. They want and prefer the illegals because they work on the taxpayer's dime. The last amnesty promoted by Feinstein would have continued that. It's no surprise the farmers supported it.

61 posted on 06/22/2008 4:24:16 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Ron Jeremy
I love you to. Anyone who takes on the name of a porn star definitely can criticize and question my intellegence anytime they want.

If you want to be taken seriously, perhaps you should consider a more grown up username.

62 posted on 06/22/2008 4:25:55 PM PDT by MovementConservative (John Roberts and Sam Alito.... Thank you GWB)
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To: rabscuttle385

“There are only two ways to fix this: either lower the U.S. to Mexico’s level, or bring Mexico to the level of U.S. (or high enough, at least, that the inducement for Mexicans to leave their own country is reduced significantly). “

I think you’ll find that in the NAU “plan”....

A North American Community Approach to Security
http://www.senate.gov/~foreign/testimony/2005/PastorTestimony050609.pdf

“The illegal immigration issue remains thorny and unsolved. Ultimately, however, it is more symptom than cause: the way to reduce illegal immigration is to make Mexico’s economy grow faster than that of the U.S.”


63 posted on 06/22/2008 4:33:48 PM PDT by Kimberly GG (Don't blame me.....I support DUNCAN HUNTER.)
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To: MovementConservative

nah..the name works great...it is like a fly trap for the illogical, who, presented with the opportunity to use ad hominem attacks in response to having been exposed saying something dumb (like that u wont eat if there are no mexican), just can’t resist. in case you are wondering, i am talking about you.


64 posted on 06/22/2008 4:43:11 PM PDT by Ron Jeremy (sonic)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

Comprehensive Immigration reform.

First close the border.


65 posted on 06/22/2008 4:45:07 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: MovementConservative

Workers are available. They just might cost a little more. I’m not completely against a temporary worker program, but it has to be done in such a way that people apply from their home country, and people from various countries have an equal chance, and an actual worker shortage must be proven.


66 posted on 06/22/2008 5:36:43 PM PDT by B Knotts (Calvin Coolidge Republican)
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To: MovementConservative
If I have to pay a bit more to have free labor pick the crops, fine. Frankly I'm very upset with this anti-American attitude so many Oregonians have that we can't live without the use of foreign labor that's underpaid.

Set a fair rate of pay and you'll find workers.

67 posted on 06/22/2008 6:37:08 PM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
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To: MovementConservative

Temporary worker programs seem unAmerican to me. Societies that rely on guest workers have problems with their large numbers of unassimilated, “temporary” visitors who have little long-term allegience to their host country.

I believe the reason America historically has been able to assimilate immigrants better than any other country in the world is that the folks who come here want to become American, and want to stay here and build a life. What we really need in my view is to secure the border, and then revamp our *legal* immigration processes. That way, instead of relying on guest workers, our workforce is filled with law-abiding Americans and aspiring Americans.


68 posted on 06/22/2008 8:10:28 PM PDT by ellery (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock -T. Jefferson)
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To: MovementConservative

People in Oregon growing onions......hmmmm....
..naaaa too easy!!


69 posted on 06/22/2008 8:50:40 PM PDT by Selmore (Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.)
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To: Ron Jeremy
we could kick everyone off of all state support, and they will have to work in the fields or starve.

This is so obvious it drives me up the wall....need fruit pickers? We have prisons full of people sitting on their asses...hard work is good for the soul..prisons overcrowded?....won't be if they are on work detail..

and then there are freeloaders on state support...we don't need illegal Mexicans...we have the work force right under our noses...

70 posted on 06/22/2008 9:08:52 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("If youÂ’re drawing flak, you know you're over the target".)
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To: ellery
folks who come here want to become American

Haven't you been paying attention? If they wanted to be Americans they wouldn't be marching with Mexican and communist flags in protest marches in such numbers...there are a small percentage who want to be Americans but I think the majority owe their allegiance to Mexico...and have no interest in becoming Americans...unless they can convert this country to a Latin culture and re-name it...and change all the rules....and

71 posted on 06/22/2008 9:15:54 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("If youÂ’re drawing flak, you know you're over the target".)
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To: muawiyah
Set a fair rate of pay and you'll find workers.

Another obvious solution...

72 posted on 06/22/2008 9:19:57 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("If youÂ’re drawing flak, you know you're over the target".)
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To: Niteflyr

You misunderstood my post. I was arguing against guest worker programs because guest workers do not necessarily want to become Americans and are not invested in our country. My point was that we need to secure the border and reform the legal immigration processes by which we welcome law-abiding, pro-America immigrants.


73 posted on 06/22/2008 9:23:28 PM PDT by ellery (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock -T. Jefferson)
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To: MovementConservative
but we have to have people to harvest the crops.

We've got the people idiot.

Capitalism 101: Supply and demand. The more you need something, the more its worth. I refuse to work on a farm for $6/hr, but I would for $20.

If you want subsidised food, please move to a communist/socialist country and see how it works out for ya! Don't let the door catch you in the butt.

I hear Venezuela has cheap gas. Head that way.

74 posted on 06/23/2008 2:59:25 AM PDT by MrPiper
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To: MrPiper

LOL! You’re funny.


75 posted on 06/23/2008 9:44:29 AM PDT by MovementConservative (John Roberts and Sam Alito.... Thank you GWB)
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