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McCain Promises Hispanics He'll Revive 'Comprehensive Immigration Reform' Measures
Publius' Forum ^ | 6/22/08 | Warner Todd Huston

Posted on 06/22/2008 11:21:50 AM PDT by Mobile Vulgus

Last year, the so-called Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2007 (Senate bill 1348) went down to a resounding defeat thanks to the vigilance of talk-radio and the blogs. John McCain was a leading voice in favor of passage in the Senate.

Since that defeat, John McCain has claimed that he has "gotten the message" that the country does not want the McCain version of "comprehensive reform" and he has avoided the issue in most campaign appearances.

But Juan McCain still lurks inside of John McCain. Read the rest at Publius' Forum.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; aliens; amnesty; cira; elections; gop; hispanicvote; immigrantlist; immigration; johnmccain; mccain
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To: Mobile Vulgus
McCain, or Osama will be spending most of their time stifling unrest that will be spreading throughout the country for them to get anything done on "comprehensive immigration reform measures".

The "winner" had better take a vacation before January's swearing in.

I've got a feeling he is going to need it for the coming four years.

21 posted on 06/22/2008 11:51:27 AM PDT by G.Mason (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: sasafras

bttt


22 posted on 06/22/2008 11:52:02 AM PDT by Guenevere (If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all.)
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To: MovementConservative
There is a need for a temporary worker program. Not amnesty, but a temporary worker program.

A temporary worker program is only a band-aid to a much bigger problem: Mexico. (Plus, when have you ever heard of a U.S. government program that is actually "temporary"?)

With such a disparity of economic opportunity (maybe "freedom" is a better word) between the U.S. and Mexico, it's no wonder that Mexicans and others from further south are so willing to risk life and limb to illegally enter the United States. There are only two ways to fix this: either lower the U.S. to Mexico's level, or bring Mexico to the level of U.S. (or high enough, at least, that the inducement for Mexicans to leave their own country is reduced significantly).

23 posted on 06/22/2008 11:52:14 AM PDT by rabscuttle385
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To: Mobile Vulgus
Just when some of you Freepers thought it was safe to vote for McCain!!


24 posted on 06/22/2008 11:52:26 AM PDT by mass55th
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To: MovementConservative
There is a need for a temporary worker program. Not amnesty, but a temporary worker program.

I can live with that.. but do you understand why some of us want the border secured FIRST?

25 posted on 06/22/2008 11:53:52 AM PDT by Ron Jeremy (sonic)
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To: rabscuttle385; MovementConservative
There are only two ways to fix this: either lower the U.S. to Mexico's level, or bring Mexico to the level of U.S. (or high enough, at least, that the inducement for Mexicans to leave their own country is reduced significantly).

One thing that I forgot to add: our politicians (such as Mr. McCain) appear to favor choosing the former option, i.e., lowering the United States to the level of Mexico.

26 posted on 06/22/2008 11:54:12 AM PDT by rabscuttle385
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To: MovementConservative
"Not amnesty, but a temporary worker program."

It's amnesty is you grant those here illegally, access to a temporary worker program.

27 posted on 06/22/2008 11:54:22 AM PDT by mass55th
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To: Mobile Vulgus

The GOP has been in its death throes for quite some time. Juan will only hasten its end. And to be quite honest not a tear will be shed by this (little “r”) republican!


28 posted on 06/22/2008 12:06:36 PM PDT by ImpBill ("America, where are you now?")
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To: Mobile Vulgus
Juan McCain is gonna kill the GOP.

George W. Bush beat him to it.

29 posted on 06/22/2008 12:07:03 PM PDT by South40
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To: Mobile Vulgus

A new comprhensive reform ?
Just wait and see after the elections.
First beat Oubama


30 posted on 06/22/2008 12:10:00 PM PDT by Ulysse
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To: Mobile Vulgus

31 posted on 06/22/2008 12:10:56 PM PDT by South40
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To: MovementConservative

no need for a temporary visa program either. they all need to be kicked out.


32 posted on 06/22/2008 12:20:15 PM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: MovementConservative
There is a need for a temporary worker program.

That's what work visas are for. There is no need for new legislation, IMO.

33 posted on 06/22/2008 12:24:23 PM PDT by calcowgirl (Schwarzenegger and McCain are trying to castrate the elephant)
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To: johnny7
Will McCain's new amnesty proposal include terrorists, gang bangers and criminals like the last one did?

Here are the Senators who voted against the Cornyn amendment , which would have established a permanent bar for gang members, terrorists, and other criminals looking to snag a shamnesty visa. Republicans underlined:

Never forget McCain not only pushed the amnesty bill, he refused to allow exclusions for the worst of the lot. And he unloaded his infamous temper on his mild-mannered senate colleague for having the audacity to introduce this amendment.

34 posted on 06/22/2008 12:26:15 PM PDT by Vigilanteman ((Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud))
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To: Selmore

you understand the next big wave of mexicans will start in only a few short years when petrobas runs out of oil. they’re currently experiencing a decline in oil production of about 10% annually. mostly the reason for this is that petrobas skims off all the profits for government agencies. basically it pays most of the taxes in mexico. they don’t invest money in more drilling. so 5-7 years from now the country is going bankrupt. that will drive millions more mexicans north.

think this country will need more guest workers —99.9% of whom don’t have the skills needed for 21st century USA? 10% of whom are criminals?

McCain like bush is a NAU guy. He believes in the free flow of workers across borders—just like in europe.

Only for the USA its an entirely bad deal.


35 posted on 06/22/2008 12:27:57 PM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: MovementConservative
You spot on. McCain is not a pie in the sky reality idealist. He is dealing with what can work. A good temporary worker system is possible with on the self technology. Think credit cards.

Those who think a 12 foot fense across our southern boarder will be the fix, have not been along our southern boarder. They would be the first to whine about all the prickly cactus plants going through their tennis shoes. The fact is we will not, because of the physical terrain, build a solid fense. You can't build fense in the middle of the Rio Grande. So much for pie in the sky. . .

We can secure the boarder with virtual boarder techniques which are still being developed. I challange my arm chair nay sayers to submit their virtual border devices to the United States Border Control. Otherwise, save their pissy statements that scapegoat McCain for our difficult southern border situation, to themselves.

36 posted on 06/22/2008 12:33:08 PM PDT by jonrick46
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To: Mobile Vulgus
Juan McCain is gonna kill the GOP.

How can you kill something that's already dead? The GOP's heart stopped about the time Dennis Hastert took over as House Speaker. That was a clear flatline signal.

37 posted on 06/22/2008 12:34:03 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: Biblebelter

“The general election in November has become no more than Democrat primary run-off between anti-war Democrat in Obama and pro-war Democrat in McCain.”

You’re exactly right, and McCain is actually a Democrat, only the military tradition in his family, and the “loathing” the military tradition in the Democrat party since the ‘60s, make the Dem. party just too unpalatable for McCain. So, he squats in the Republican party and pretends to be one, while constantly stabbing his party in the back and sucking up to the liberal media.

He’s a lying little weasel, and his reversal on securing the border first since getting the nomination, and his bald faced lies about Romney before the Florida primary just paint him for what he is, and always has been.


38 posted on 06/22/2008 12:36:10 PM PDT by Will88
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To: jonrick46

“We can secure the boarder with virtual boarder techniques which are still being developed.”

Yeah right! You must have missed the news about the grand success, er, I mean the grand failure of the virtual fence Boeing was installing recently. Project abandoned.

But hope, or self-delusion, or outright deliberate deceit springs eternal. Recall the great success of the “McNamara Wall” designed to stop the infiltration of South Vietnam by the North?

This virtual fence nonsense is nothing but a ruse to waste time on a plan they know will not work, and to avoid building a real fence because the know it will be very effective.


39 posted on 06/22/2008 12:41:46 PM PDT by Will88
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To: ckilmer

I thought Petrobas was Brazilian.


40 posted on 06/22/2008 12:43:32 PM PDT by OBXWanderer (www.dontvoterino.com)
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