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Weapons Automatic For The People, But Not For Government
The Tampa Tribune ^ | June 21, 2008 | CHRISTIAN M. WADE

Posted on 06/22/2008 12:44:27 AM PDT by neverdem

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1 posted on 06/22/2008 12:55:02 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Why am I not surprised?


2 posted on 06/22/2008 12:59:35 AM PDT by Ronin (Is there some rule that says that when an evil man gets sick, we must pretend he was saint?)
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To: neverdem
With the assault-weapons ban keeping most fully automatic weapons out of their hands...

For the 27 billionth time... the "assault weapons ban(s)" don't actually ban "fully automatic" firearms, which have been largely illegal since the 30's. They only ban semi automatic firearms that look similar to them, regardless of how they function.

Doesn't anyone in the media care about writing facts?!

3 posted on 06/22/2008 1:51:51 AM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE - http://freenj.blogspot.com - RadioFree NJ)
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To: neverdem
Monroe said the basis of the legal challenge is that the ATF overstepped its authority.

"Overstepped its authority?"

Our ATF?

Say it ain't so. /s

4 posted on 06/22/2008 1:51:54 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet ((One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All))
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To: tcostell
Doesn't anyone in the media care about writing facts?!

Surely you jest?

And before I've even had my 1st cup of coffee.

Sheesh.

Oh, and I apologize in advance for calling you "surely." lol

5 posted on 06/22/2008 1:55:56 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet ((One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All))
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

Where is the picture with the guy smacking his forehead “Not this sh*t, again!”


6 posted on 06/22/2008 2:24:12 AM PDT by wastoute
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To: neverdem

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9P8AbTKvykE

I’d buy one.


7 posted on 06/22/2008 3:18:04 AM PDT by do not press 2 for spanish
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To: do not press 2 for spanish

For all intents and purposes it does the same thing as an automatic. However, I’m not sure I’d plop down a grand for one. I’m assuming it’s the tuned mechanical equivalent of a ‘standing wave’ (pressure) that basically matches the recoil cycle, etc.....must be touch to tune....


8 posted on 06/22/2008 3:25:36 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: tcostell
No. They are lefties. Even if they agree as to the ‘facts’, there is a ‘higher truth’ that is more real than any object, any fact. Social Justice, equality, fairness all trump any unimaginative petty ‘facts’. These 'higher truths' trump reality, the Constitution, Laws even on occasion life and property.
9 posted on 06/22/2008 3:27:27 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: neverdem

There are a whole lot of U.S. Govt. agencies that aren’t worth a cup of spit. The B.A.T.F. is right up there near the worst.
Lots of criminals like Lon Horiuchi that should at the least be in prison for their “official “actions and sitting in an electric chair if I had my way.
Murderers and scum.


10 posted on 06/22/2008 3:36:20 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: neverdem
Take a look at the rubber band technique. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVfwFP_RwTQ&feature=related
11 posted on 06/22/2008 3:51:56 AM PDT by Texas Jack
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12 posted on 06/22/2008 4:16:59 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: tcostell
" ... Doesn't anyone in the media care about writing facts?!"


Is it really that hard, after all these years of manipulation by the MSM, to understand that they know full well what the particular "fascts" are.

Their purpose is to give mis-information (re-define, if you will) to the general public.


ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒE

13 posted on 06/22/2008 4:30:18 AM PDT by G.Mason (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: Joe Brower
Ping bump ....


fascts = facts

14 posted on 06/22/2008 4:32:57 AM PDT by G.Mason (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: tcostell
“which have been largely illegal since the 30’s.”

Actually, automatic weapons are not illegal and never have been. However, the process, procedure and conditions for owning and possessing one is arduous for sure. It's been a long time since I possessed a FFL but as I recall, in order to own a full auto one must apply for a permit through their local police authorities, must have an approved method of securing the weapon, and must be willing to allow law enforcement to inspect one's home and storage faculty anytime there is a gun issue that could possibly involve a weapon such as the owner possesses. Like I said, it's been awhile since I have read through the conditions. So, anyone is welcome to add to or correct my inputs. Like a Freeper needs an invite to do this :)...

15 posted on 06/22/2008 4:51:04 AM PDT by snoringbear ('Just so to get the terminology correct; it goes like this; the federal government is the Pimp, the)
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To: neverdem
"They took everything from me," Akins said. "This is America. How can they do that?"

This is a 55-year-old man. How can he be that naive?

16 posted on 06/22/2008 5:11:24 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Teach your child to be an American. Take him out of public school.)
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To: snoringbear
In order to own a select fire weapon, short barreled rifle or shotgun (under 18 inches), silencer, or full auto conversion device; you need to:

1) purchase it from a federally licensed dealer who is a Class 3/FSOT.
2) submit a Form 4 in duplicate approved by the chief law enforcement officer in your locality (unless you are chief officer of an LLC in which case the signature is not required)
3) supply two passport photos and two sets of fingerprints
4) and submit $200 per weapon to the ATF and wait for them to process the application (I've never had to wait more than 6 weeks for any of mine).

This is all subject to local and state ordinances. It's all a lot of unconstitutional hoops to jump through in order to exercise a fundamental right.

17 posted on 06/22/2008 5:17:46 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: neverdem
With all due respect, posted multiple times on FreeRepublic.

Best regards,

18 posted on 06/22/2008 5:33:30 AM PDT by Copernicus (California Grandmother view on Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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To: Copernicus
Actually,same topic, different article! Read carefully before posting! Sheeesh!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1945749/posts

19 posted on 06/22/2008 5:38:53 AM PDT by Copernicus (California Grandmother view on Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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To: Copernicus
Actually, actually, the similarities between the two articles are stunning.

For years, marksmen have been using a technique called bump firing, shooting a semiautomatic rifle from the hip and allowing the weapon's recoil to pull the trigger.

With federal regulations keeping fully automatic weapons out of their hands, it was one of the few ways for firearm enthusiasts to enjoy the thrill of firing a machine gun.

If there was only a way to simulate that action, Bill Akins wondered, by creating a device that mechanized the recoil resistance to fire more rapid, and accurate, bursts of bullets.

Thus the Akins Accelerator was born.

....

That was until the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives banned the Accelerator - two years after approving it.

To the ATF, the mechanism is an illegal converter kit that, in the wrong hands, could turn a run-of the-mill target rifle into a 700-round-per-minute killing machine.

Threatening him with imprisonment, officials ordered Akins to cease production, turn over the recoil springs from his existing stock and hand over his customer list.

20 posted on 06/22/2008 5:43:24 AM PDT by Copernicus (California Grandmother view on Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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