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Yearning for Zion: What next for the polygamists?
The Sunday Times ^ | 06/22/2008 | Byran Appleyard

Posted on 06/21/2008 6:17:09 PM PDT by JRochelle

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To: Graybeard58; uglybiker
I have been a Mason for many years and I have never heard of a "belief system".

Hi Graybeard. If what you say is true, how much attention to the Masons have you been giving?

Masonic Beliefs and Practices


81 posted on 06/22/2008 4:45:05 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I wasn't in church during the time when the statements were made.")
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To: svcw; patton; SouthTexas; commonguymd; Alice in Wonderland; LeGrande; CindyDawg; SkyPilot; ...

And now for a musical interlude.

TWO HANGMEN

youtube video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bt2eF1IJtSE


Two Hangmen
by Mason Proffit

As I rode into Tombstone, my horse his name was Mac,
I saw what I’ll relate to you, goin’ on behind my back
It seems that folks were up in arms, a man now had to die,
For saying things that didn’t fit the laws they’d set aside.

The man’s name was “I’m a Freak”, the best that I could see,
He was the executioner, a hangman just like me,
I guess that he’d seen loopholes, from workin’ with his rope,
He’d hung the wrong man many times, so now he turned to hope.

He talked to all the people from his scaffold in the square,
He told them of the things he’d found, but they didn’t seem to care
He said the laws were obsolete, a change they should demand,
But the people only walked away, he couldn’t understand.

The marshall’s name was Uncle Sam, he said he’d right this wrong,
He’d make the hangman shut his mouth if it took him all year long,
He finally arrested Freak, and then he sent for me,
To hang a fellow hangman, from a fellow hangman’s tree.

It didn’t take them long to try him, in their court of law,
He was guilty then of thinking, a crime much worse than all,
They sentenced him to die, so his seed of thought can’t spread,
And infect the little children, that’s what the law had said.

Well, the hangin’ day came round and he walked up to the noose,
I pulled the lever but before he fell I cut him loose,
They called it all conspiracy, and then I had to die,
So to close our mouths and kill our minds, they hung us side by side...

And now we’re two hangman, hangin’ from a tree,
That don’t bother me, at all.
Two hangman, hangin’ from a tree,
That don’t bother me, at all.


[these lyrics are found on http://www.songlyrics.com]


82 posted on 06/22/2008 4:52:01 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all pesters)
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To: patton

“But you are allowed to go outside and beat the heck out of each other, ;)”

Kind of like some family reunions!


83 posted on 06/22/2008 5:02:32 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all pesters)
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To: ozaukeemom

When you read it, you’ll get insight into Merril and his favorite wife, Barbara. It is scary to think of him leading anyone (let alone the FLDS) and that means Barbara pulls lots of the strings.

I’d like to read Stolen Innocence. It’s hard to believe people are living such controlled lives here in America.


84 posted on 06/22/2008 5:07:02 PM PDT by kactus
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To: FastCoyote

““Why,” asks the judge, “does he have only one leg?””


There was a traveler whose car broke down with a flat tire, near a countryside farm. The traveler hiked to the farmer’s door and asked for help, and the farmer quickly obliged.

Afterward, the farmer invited the traveler to stay a few minutes and take a tour of the farm.

Going by the barn the farmer explained;

“See the pig in this pen here? He’s a very special pig.
My son fell into the pig pen, and this pig protected him until I could get him out.”

Traveler: “wow. I didn’t know they would do that”

Farmer: “That’s nothing. Last year a horse knocked over the kerosene lantern in the barn, and started a fire. This pig climbed out of his pen, came to the house squealing until he woke us all up, saved the barn, and our lives”

Traveler: “Gee. I wish my dog were as good as that. That is fantastic”

Farmer: “heck, last week I fell into the pond, and the pig jumped into the pond, and pulled me out. I don’t know how to swim, and would have drowned.”

Traveler: “Oh my. I’ll have to tell all my friends about this pig. By the way, why does that pig have only one leg?

Farmer: “Well, you don’t eat a prize pig like that all at once.”


85 posted on 06/22/2008 5:22:59 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all pesters)
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To: kactus

I have passed it on to someone or I would send it to you. I found it at Costco, so it wasn’t a bad price either! A lot of scary insight in it also. The Lost Boys are mentioned as well as how they treat rebellious members or even those the “prophet” just wants out of the way. Warren Jeffs is an evil man.


86 posted on 06/22/2008 5:57:59 PM PDT by ozaukeemom (Nuke the ACLU and their snivel rights)
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To: SkyPilot; Graybeard
Hi Graybeard. If what you say is true, how much attention to the Masons have you been giving?

He certainly gives it more attention than you give your sources.

That site's a bit 'out there'. Cryptic manuscripts...UFO artifacts...cosmic computers...

87 posted on 06/22/2008 7:14:29 PM PDT by uglybiker (I do not suffer from mental illness. I quite enjoy it, actually.)
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To: JRochelle; UCANSEE2; hocndoc; Alice in Wonderland

MSNBC is doing a program on the FLDS now.

9:00 PM CDT


88 posted on 06/22/2008 7:18:18 PM PDT by deport ( ----Cue Spooky Music---)
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To: SkyPilot
Hi Graybeard. If what you say is true, how much attention to the Masons have you been giving?

Enough to know that it isn't a religion nor does it claim to be, not even a "belief system". J. Smith stole some of the symbols of Masonery for the mormon cult and called it religious.

89 posted on 06/22/2008 7:53:56 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Only 7 more shopping days until Graybeard58's b/day.)
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To: kactus
The book “Escape” by Carolyn Jessop

It took a lot for Carolyn Jessop to escape, especially with 8 kids, one of whom required almost constant attention because of his medical problems. The one whom Merril Jessop was willing to let die, to punish Carolyn.

90 posted on 06/22/2008 8:07:37 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Only 7 more shopping days until Graybeard58's b/day.)
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To: Graybeard58

Carolyn is an amazing woman to have figured out a way to escape with next to no gas in her car.
She was resourceful in life and just incredible at problem solving in dealing with such a cruel husband and controlling sister wife.


91 posted on 06/22/2008 9:13:27 PM PDT by kactus
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To: JRochelle
Isn't there some law against such rabid anti-american rhetoric?

You want to enforce such a law?

92 posted on 06/22/2008 9:35:28 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife
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To: deport

Thanks for the heads-up. The re-run is starting now and I’m watching.


93 posted on 06/22/2008 10:02:05 PM PDT by Alice in Wonderland (4-Hshootingsports.org)
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To: UCANSEE2
If the author had said ‘groups’ instead of ‘religions’, would it then be true?

Of course - but we are not a group that likes to nitpick over words.

--MormonDude(Wasn't that Dan Quayle a nut when he couldn't spel tater write!!?)

94 posted on 06/23/2008 5:52:40 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Diamond

95 posted on 06/23/2008 6:30:53 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: UCANSEE2
I like cotton T-shirts.

How about the one above? ;^)

96 posted on 06/23/2008 6:31:48 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
That don't take twelve steps.

Cordially,

97 posted on 06/23/2008 7:50:53 AM PDT by Diamond
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To: SkyPilot

Yeah, George Washington and John Wayner were members of a cult.

Pffft.

All those links and “authorities” on masons are full of dog poop.

I am a Jew who accepted Christ, got rejected by my family and friends because of acceptance of Christ, and also happen to be a member of the mason fraternity (a Knight Templar of the York Rite, in fact, and swore to defend Christiandom to my death).

I know my Bible very well, and I know masonry. And yes, I’ve been a worshipful master, a past master, and everything in between. I know all the “secrets” (which are handshakes and means of recognition, nothing more or less).

Lots of people spread lies about masons. Lots of stupid and ignorant people believe them.

Think about it: Would the founder of the Salvation Army be a non-Christian? How about all the Baptist founders Baylor University? How about George Washington? John Wayne? Innumerous ArchBishops of Canterbery, back when the Anglican Church had a backbone? Of course not.

If it wasn’t so silly, it would be insulting and tiresome.


98 posted on 06/23/2008 8:10:01 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Mossad!)
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To: SkyPilot

Wow, I’ve been a mason for a long time, and never heard any of those crap “beliefs” from a mason.

Heard others say “masons” believe it, and I have no doubt there are supid masons who do, just like there are people that vote for “Change” and “Hope.”

Me, I am a redneck Christian of the Protestant variety.


99 posted on 06/23/2008 3:10:42 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (McCain is the best candidate of the Democrat party.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

I always get a kick out of those that aren’t masons trying to pass off their wild imaginations of what it is on others. Stupid is as stupid does I guess with those that have no clue.


100 posted on 06/23/2008 3:12:52 PM PDT by commonguymd (Freedom and individual liberty is for everyone, including the odd and weird people like you.)
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