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US energy chief says 'speculators' not forcing up oil prices (Pelosi, where's the lower gas prices?)
afp ^ | 6/21/2008 | AFP

Posted on 06/21/2008 4:22:57 PM PDT by tobyhill

JEDDAH, Saudi Arabia (AFP) — US Energy Secretary Samuel Bodman said on Saturday that speculators were not forcing up global oil prices, which nearly hit 140 dollars per barrel this week.

"There is no evidence that we can find that speculators are driving futures prices," Bodman told a press briefing ahead of Sunday's summit in Jeddah that will bring together consuming and producing nations to address the global energy crisis.

"It is clear that financial markets have seen unprecedented movement of capital into commodities in recent years. Our view is that this capital is following the market upward, it is not leading that movement."

"That is our position. We believe that it is backed up by the facts, and that is the case that we will be making here in Jeddah tomorrow."

The Organisation of Petroleum Exporting Countries, whose 13 nations pump 40 percent of the world's oil, has repeatedly argued that speculation and the weak dollar, not low supplies, were driving prices to record highs.

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KEYWORDS: energy; energyprices
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1 posted on 06/21/2008 4:22:58 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

I bet Sam Bodman gets in trouble for this ....


2 posted on 06/21/2008 4:33:56 PM PDT by Ken522
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To: tobyhill
"In the absence of any additional crude supply, for every one percent increase in demand we would expect a 20 percent increase in price in order to balance the market," he said.
"Prices respond when surplus capacity is low, particularly when geopolitical turmoil or events such as hurricanes, threaten supply."

The Pelosi Premium at work?

3 posted on 06/21/2008 4:34:04 PM PDT by rabscuttle385
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To: tobyhill

“US Energy Secretary Samuel Bodman said on Saturday that speculators were not forcing up global oil prices, which nearly hit 140 dollars per barrel this week.”

Gee, if they were, and they got exposed, how long would it take for the administration to bail them out lest the “free market” in oil dry up? /s

Why am I not surprised to hear this from a functionary of the Administration which used our money to guarantee the bailout of its Bear Stearns buddies? Its almost like the Administration is bound and determined to make sure the Republican Party is finished with the overwhelming majority of the American people.


4 posted on 06/21/2008 4:39:12 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: Ken522
Of course he takes this position. With an administration that has been bought and paid for by ADM to support biofuels, and a Treasury Secretary that was former chief of Goldman Sachs, who is at the center of the commodities index trading bonanza, what position do you think he is going to take.

Here is Bodman's take: Secretary Bodman and Agriculture Secretary Schafer letter on biofuels

5 posted on 06/21/2008 4:40:23 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Kolokotronis
Why am I not surprised to hear this from a functionary of the Administration which used our money to guarantee the bailout of its Bear Stearns buddies?

And former investment banker and head of Fidelity investment. He wouldn't be the least bit interested in whether or not we bail out his wall street friends, now would he?

6 posted on 06/21/2008 4:41:59 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: tobyhill
It is clear that financial markets have seen unprecedented movement of capital into commodities in recent years. Our view is that this capital is following the market upward, it is not leading that movement.

So the claim is that it's just floating the high prices, not causing them. Oh, thank you, I feel so much better knowing that there's no bottom to the market now...

7 posted on 06/21/2008 4:43:20 PM PDT by kingu (Party for rent - conservative opinions not required.)
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To: tobyhill

LOL! This guy is a freaking moron if he is trying to pretend the speculators have NOTHING to do with the gas prices..


8 posted on 06/21/2008 4:44:12 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: rabscuttle385
for every one percent increase in demand we would expect a 20 percent increase in price in order to balance the market

Wow. Sounds like a speculators bonanza. It does not take many orders to cause a 3% increase in demand, i.e. 60% increase in price, using his claim.

9 posted on 06/21/2008 4:44:13 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Ken522

This is hilarious.

“There is no evidence that we can find that speculators are driving futures prices,”

That’s right, he’s trying to deny “speculators” have nothing to do with “futures.”

“It is clear that financial markets have seen unprecedented movement of capital into commodities in recent years.”

So he admits it. How does he get out of this wrangle...

“Our view is that this capital is following the market upward, it is not leading that movement.”

LOL. As if speculation doesn’t feed that movement. And it is many commodity futures, not just oil.

Maybe he’s telling these bad lies here because he thinks he can confuse the Saudis in his upcoming visit.


10 posted on 06/21/2008 4:44:21 PM PDT by Shermy (Handlebars, Flobots. A prophecy about egomania, megalomania and Obama.)
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To: kingu
Our view is that this capital is following the market upward, it is not leading that movement

It is like a bad joke. Q. Now why would speculators manipulate the oil markets? A. To make money.

I mean, hello, dude!

11 posted on 06/21/2008 4:45:53 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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Anyone remember Nelson Bunker Hunt? Quintuple the margin requirements and oil drops $40 in less than a week.


12 posted on 06/21/2008 4:47:29 PM PDT by Founding Father (The Pedophile moHAMmudd (PBUH---Pigblood be upon him))
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To: Shermy

I don’t think he’s ever heard of “..tulipmania.”


13 posted on 06/21/2008 4:48:02 PM PDT by Ken522
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To: Shermy
How does he get out of this wrangle..

Through Greenspanian double talk. After all it worked for him, until it didn't, and he got blamed for the subprime mortgage mess.

14 posted on 06/21/2008 4:48:29 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: tobyhill

Some people are utterly surprised that the law of supply and demand, and the price as a measure of effectiveness of the application of that law, worked every time it has ever been tried.

It is working right now, which assures that supply and demand are synchronized closely. It will work in the future.

Attempting to adjust supply and demand, by either lowering the price (through subsidy or just by dictating the price) has the effect of disrupting the supply, or possibly creation of a black market that permits the delivery of the goods or services by extralegal means, or attempting to artificially restrict either supply or demand, only skews the price. The restricted product or service will be bid up in price, until the number of buyers equals the number of sellers. The remainder, who cannot or will not pay the price demanded, just drop out of the market.

Result, overall commerce disappears, and the multiplier effect of one transaction triggering a number of other transactions, also disappears, and the business cycle collapses.


15 posted on 06/21/2008 4:48:38 PM PDT by alloysteel (Carbon dioxide is plant food, no more of a "pollutant" than water or oxygen.)
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To: tobyhill

BULLAVA SHIITE


16 posted on 06/21/2008 4:49:41 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (OBAMATIZATION - A Liberals Religion ABORTION - The ultimate form of Liberal Child Abuse.)
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To: Ken522
I don’t think he’s ever heard of “..tulipmania.”

:)
17 posted on 06/21/2008 4:50:26 PM PDT by allmost
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To: Kolokotronis
Why am I not surprised to hear this from a functionary of the Administration which used our money to guarantee the bailout of its Bear Stearns buddies?

Your money bailed out Bear Stearns? How do you figure?

18 posted on 06/21/2008 4:52:05 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are doom and gloomers, union members and liberals so bad at math?)
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To: tobyhill
When the product is an essential monopoly good with inelastic demand, the sky is the limit when it comes to prices.

Give oil a competitor or pay the premium price they demand indefinitely.
19 posted on 06/21/2008 4:53:26 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: Ken522

Tulips are not an essential monopoly good with inelastic demand.


20 posted on 06/21/2008 4:54:40 PM PDT by mysterio
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