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To: freespirited

Wrong. All 1961 birth certificates would NOT have used the word “black” in that situation. They would have said Negro. Having studied more than a few census and other government records, I can assure you that are not always consistent. It often depends on what term that the attending doctor or nurse who filled it out wants to use. The folks who keep pushing this should either drop this silly crusade or, at the very least, get their facts right.


6 posted on 06/21/2008 1:15:52 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Captain Kirk

He is reporting what the Hawaii registrar told him. That person said the terminology for the father’s race would have been black or negro—but not African.

I don’t get how that is inconsistent with your position.


16 posted on 06/21/2008 1:19:51 PM PDT by freespirited (A Democrat is a person who lives in fear that someone, somewhere is proud to be an American.)
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To: Captain Kirk
The folks who keep pushing this should either drop this silly crusade or, at the very least, get their facts right.

I vote for dropping it.

17 posted on 06/21/2008 1:20:31 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: Captain Kirk
Wrong. All 1961 birth certificates would NOT have used the word “black” in that situation. They would have said Negro.

Absolutely. And in Obama's case they certainly would also have included the term "magic".
19 posted on 06/21/2008 1:21:36 PM PDT by mkjessup (Obama-flakes! = Little suntanned Jimmy Carters with twice the empty rhetoric , from DNC cereals!)
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To: Captain Kirk

i’d imagine in ‘61, calling someone “black” would have been an insult


23 posted on 06/21/2008 1:24:02 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: Captain Kirk

I think that what the registrar said is correct. I’ve commented on this before. The accepted official term at the time was negro, but the word “black” was in the process of replacing it, and it’s possible that it might have been used. “African-American” came along much later, and replaced “black” as the most politically correct term.

In any case, this is a certification of birth, not a birth certificate. If Obama isn’t hiding something, then why doesn’t he tell the Hawaian registrar to RELEASE THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE.

This is exactly like Kerry’s Form 180. They are both hiding something, or they would release the official documents.


27 posted on 06/21/2008 1:27:32 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Captain Kirk

“Negro” was the operative word back in the 1950s through the mid-1960s. Then “Black” replaced “Negro” circa 1967-1968. Now, of course, it’s “African-American”. What it will be next, who knows?

Which always prompts me to ask the question, “If a White man who was born and raised in the Republic of South Africa moved to the US and became naturalized, would he be an “African-American”?


30 posted on 06/21/2008 1:27:47 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: Captain Kirk

Are there any FReepers born in HI in the early 1960’s that have a BC that looks similar to this? I am not much younger than the big O, and my birth certificate looks nothing like this. This looks way too modern to have come from the 1960’s. I was born in another state, though.


61 posted on 06/21/2008 1:50:42 PM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: Captain Kirk
Wrong. All 1961 birth certificates would NOT have used the word “black” in that situation. They would have said Negro.
Having studied more than a few census and other government records, I can assure you that are not always consistent.

Explain how those two declarations AREN'T contradictory in the context of this discussion?

77 posted on 06/21/2008 2:22:39 PM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: Captain Kirk; freespirited
We are talking about 1961. The claims advanced about "black" being the preferred word, or maybe "Negro" getting top billing, are malarky.

The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was the first that authorized the Executive Branch to take action to enforce the rights of victims of discrimination.

Until that time there was no need for a standard "racial" reporting classification outside of the US Census.

I really wish folks would bother studying their 1960s history first.

98 posted on 06/21/2008 2:47:02 PM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
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