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More Hatred, More Venom Please (Why Conservatives Should Hate The Left And Centrists Alert)
Don Feder.com ^ | 6/20/2008 | Don Feder

Posted on 06/21/2008 12:51:38 PM PDT by goldstategop

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21 posted on 06/21/2008 2:45:04 PM PDT by Christian4Bush ("In Israel, the President hit the nail on the head. The nails are complaining loudly." - John Bolton)
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To: Sirloin

Am I wrong but if you describe yourself as fiscally conservative and socially liberal, would this not be “libertarian?”


22 posted on 06/21/2008 2:53:14 PM PDT by Skywalk (Transdimensional Jihad!)
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To: L98Fiero
'Centrists' and liberals are, at best, destructive fools. Liberals are busy drilling holes in the boat. Centrists believe that negotiating for fewer holes is the answer.

There are two sides to every issue: one side is right and the other is wrong, but the middle is always evil. The man who is wrong still retains some respect for truth, if, only, by accepting the responsibility of choice. But the man in the middle is the knave who blanks out the truth in order to pretend that no choice or values exist, who is willing to sit out the course of any battle, willing to cash in on the blood of the innocent or to crawl on his belly to the guilty, who dispenses justice by condemning both the robber and the robbed to jail, who solves conflicts by ordering the thinker and the fool to meet each other halfway. In any compromise between food and poison, it is only death that can win. In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit. In that transfusion of blood which drains the good to feed the evil, the compromiser is the transmitting rubber tube.
Ayn Rand - Atlas Shrugged, 965-966

It's time for Atlas to shrug - and pick up a gun.

23 posted on 06/21/2008 2:53:30 PM PDT by Noumenon (Time for Atlas to shrug - and pick up a gun.)
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To: L98Fiero

Meh. I don’t know if I’d agree with “hate” in the truest sense of the term but I DO agree there should be MORE partisanship.

After all, no one can honestly say that Bush’s “uniter not divider” rhetoric and actions worked in any way whatsoever or that compromising with Dems ever really works to advance the Rightist agenda, can they?

At some point you have to stop trying to be loved and respected by people who compare you to Hitler all while giving a pass to the REAL Hitlers of the world and those that have consistently taken up the cause or sympathized with not only the enemies of our country but of freedom and humanity itself.


24 posted on 06/21/2008 2:55:46 PM PDT by Skywalk (Transdimensional Jihad!)
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To: Tax-chick

I saw him speak on queer marriage on Boston Common during a rally, very powerful.


25 posted on 06/21/2008 3:05:51 PM PDT by Little Bill (Welcome to the Newly Socialist State of New Hampshire)
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To: Sirloin
Yeah I noticed that too. What this article condones is not too far from Orwell’s two-minutes-hate. Sorry, Don, I’m a right leaning centrist, one of those loathesome creatures you despise. I don’t believe hate is productive at all. If you want to see perpetual hatred take a good look at the gangs of LA, or Darfur, or any other situation where the violence is unending. And, how does hating people because of their beliefs mesh with your so-called Christian principles? “Well, they do it to us!” is not a good response. A childish one perhaps, but aren’t conservatives supposed to be the grownups?

Don Feder makes some very salient points about the leftwing. He characterizes them as dangerous to our liberty and absolutely ruthless in pursuing their goal of political domination that would result in the collapse of our nation as it is clearly based on communist principles.

Don Feder says the left is loathsome and he explains why the left is loathsome. Feder promotes a much harder counter-attack against smears from the left. The 'me too' John McCain policy of appeasing leftists is totally futile and many conservatives are sick of it.

That you stoop to attempting to use Christianity as a means of obliquely criticizing conservative disgust with not only the political left but Republican politicians that attempt to 'co-exist' with it is telling. This is not a religious or spiritual matter. Feder makes it abundantly clear that, in his and most conservative's opinion, the political left is inherently evil and that it's time conservatives stopped trying to sugar-coat that fact and vigorously attack the terribly destructive and often stupid ideas coming from the political left (global warming hoax, for instance) with truth and fight against what really is America's enemy...the political left-wing.

If you can't grasp that, you're probably at the wrong website.

26 posted on 06/21/2008 3:09:16 PM PDT by Jim Scott (Time Heals)
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To: Little Bill

He’s a very, very sharp writer. I’ve been reading his columns for many years.


27 posted on 06/21/2008 3:28:08 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Tell me what a man will fight for, and IÂ’ll tell you what heÂ’s made of." ~ Don Feder)
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To: Sirloin
Sorry, Don, I’m a right leaning centrist, one of those loathesome creatures you despise.

I don't know if Don despises people like you, but he probably would like you to get out of the way so he can return the enemy's fire.

28 posted on 06/21/2008 3:32:46 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: goldstategop
Suctioning out only part of the brain? But do we really need more Democratic voters?

Ouch.

29 posted on 06/21/2008 3:37:38 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: goldstategop
There is also the possibility that the Rats have some nasty personal dirt on McClellan's personal life.

In one of his book interviews, I heard him say that he did this to help "end the partisanship and bring the parties together", or some such nonsense. That crap is an obvious lie, it's meant to do exactly the opposite, to increase animosity toward the GOP. Straight out of the Dem Commie Talking Points Playbook.

30 posted on 06/21/2008 3:37:38 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: goldstategop

Excellent piece. Thanks for posting it.


31 posted on 06/21/2008 3:40:00 PM PDT by Faith
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To: Sirloin
Sirloin,

I think, from your attitued, you come from further back on the beef. Fedor is striving for action on the part of conservatives and when he describes people like you, he hits the nail squarely in the CENTER.

32 posted on 06/21/2008 3:47:19 PM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: Tax-chick
I believe he is an Orthodox Jew and takes the Torah seriously. According to a friend of mine that knows him he is a very nice guy.
33 posted on 06/21/2008 3:50:53 PM PDT by Little Bill (Welcome to the Newly Socialist State of New Hampshire)
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To: goldstategop
I’m a centrist.
My, my, my, how soon folks forget...

Privately, however, he and his advisers came to realize that he had to make a public gesture more emphatic than that, both to assure Catholic voters that he had not intended any insult and to recapture his image as a centrist Republican, according to officials with the Bush campaign.

Bush is, broadly speaking, a centrist. (Source: The Economist, p. 13 Jul 3, 1999)

Should Bush win the presidency in 2000, it could signal a significant realignment of US politics, with the Republicans breaking free of the constraints of the religious right and embracing the centrist, 'Third Way' zeitgeist.

The significance of these remarks is that Mr. Gore was being forced off his populist platform Wednesday night by Governor Bush's well-stated claims to centrist or conservative ground.

McKinnon understands all too well that he is part of the marketing pitch, the notion that open-minded Democrats may be drawn to Bush's centrist rhetoric of inclusion just as the media man was.

Ol' Scotty should've been a happy camper! There's plenty of old stuff out there about the POTUS being a centrist when he sought the nomination.

34 posted on 06/21/2008 4:12:23 PM PDT by philman_36
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To: Skywalk

Maybe, but my socially ‘liberal’ positions are probably more conservative than a true libertarian. Abortion bad, some drugs ok, a sparse social safety net. People should have both the freedom to succeed and freedom to fail.

But that is tangential to the topic. I answered your question, now I ask you: What purpose does it serve to be a red meat conservative and espouse hate?

At best, it makes your voice louder, but at a great cost. Namely, it makes you not rational. As a conservative, do you make big decisions based on emotion? Probably not, but that is what hate is.

I’m not going to choose government representatives based on who can stir up the most vitriol. I’m going to choose them based on my assessment of whether or not they can make headway towards the issues I care about.


35 posted on 06/21/2008 4:23:04 PM PDT by Sirloin (snickering at hyperbole since 1998!)
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Yeah I noticed that too. What this article condones is not too far from Orwell’s two-minutes-hate.

Don Feder is speaking the truth. The Marxists and Communists are hiding under the labels of "liberal", "leftist", "progressive", and "socialist".

If I remember correctly the "two-minutes of hate" in Orwells "1984" was not about truth. It dealt with crowd manipulation and manufactured emotion orchestrated by a lying government and the lying people in that government.

Sorry, Don, I’m a right leaning centrist, one of those loathesome creatures you despise.

Does this mean compromising our Constitution, Bill of Rights, and a free economy? If so then I loath this philosophy and will do **everything** legally possible to stop it.

I don’t believe hate is productive at all. If you want to see perpetual hatred take a good look at the gangs of LA, or Darfur, or any other situation where the violence is unending.

It is **always** productive to hate sin, but to love the sinner. Ditto for anything or anyone who is evil.

And, how does hating people because of their beliefs mesh with your so-called Christian principles?

Again:

It is **always** productive to hate sin, but to love the sinner. Ditto for evil.

“Well, they do it to us!” is not a good response. A childish one perhaps, but aren’t conservatives supposed to be the grownups?

A Christian must never use the behavior of others to gauge his own actions.

It is important for **all** Christians to tell the **truth**! It is one of the Ten Commandments. We must **never** bare false witness! If a philosophy or action, or person, or thing is evil, if and action is sinful, we **must** be truthful. We must call sin a sin, and evil, what it is. How others see us is irrelevant to all except God.

How is it possible to compromise on truth? It isn't. If abortion is evil, then we must fight it. If the communists in our nation are hiding under the false name of liberal, we must **use** the words communist and Marxist!

>“Well, they do it to us!” is **not** a good or morally sound reason to act. Truth is what should motivate all Christians. Fighting evil is what should motivate Christians.

36 posted on 06/21/2008 4:41:45 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: Sirloin
What purpose does it serve to be a red meat conservative and espouse hate? At best, it makes your voice louder, but at a great cost. Namely, it makes you not rational. As a conservative, do you make big decisions based on emotion? Probably not, but that is what hate is.

Take a good look at leftism's destructive march through our society over the past 50 years and tell me why "expousing hate" (I call it defining your opponent), as you put it, works for them.

And don't bother saying it hasn't.

37 posted on 06/21/2008 4:55:54 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Sirloin
1. Feder is using "hate" the sameway the left does. The left calls anything a conservative does to stridently stand up for an opinion "hate".
2. Feder is Jewish.
38 posted on 06/21/2008 5:13:57 PM PDT by rmlew (Down with the ersatz immanentization of the eschaton known as Globalism.)
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To: goldstategop

BUMP for excellence.
That homosexual crackhead Obama MUST be defeated and humiliated.


39 posted on 06/21/2008 5:16:55 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Sirloin
I’m a right leaning centrist

I think you're a liar. What's more, I suspect that you fully intend to vote for that homosexual crackhead Obama.

40 posted on 06/21/2008 5:19:39 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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