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I guess the question is whether the Dems and the President could really get away with this without starting a civil war.

There will be plenty of RINOs in the senate to help them. Since their defeat in 2007, they have tried to pass amnesty piecemeal, e.g. the Dream Act, the Ag bill, the Baca amendment, etc. They will try to fool the American people by not calling it an amnesty, i.e., paying fines, getting to the back of the line, earned path to citizenship, etc.

It will be easier to fight with a Dem in the WH. The Dems want this to be a bipartisan bill so they can gain some cover.

...and the folks who finally forced them to clamp down on the border will be ready to go after them.

I hope that is the case, but these people are persistent and devious. They want to wear us down. You can only cry wolf so many times. It is difficult to mobilize people time and again. If it does pass, it will change the political landscape in this country. It cuts across party lines so the Reps would be wise to remain principled on the issue.

I attended a CATO meeting on Wednesday that had an open borders type, Jason Riley of the WSJ, promoting his new book, "Let them in." Michael Barone spoke as well. His remarks were disappointing. He was saying that the anti-immigrant Reps would have to adapt or die as a party.

“It will be easier to fight with a Dem in the WH.”

No way. It will be impossible to fight with a Dem in the WH, unless you’re willing to pick up your gun. If you want to fight it, what you really need to do is elect conservatives to the Congress. It’s the Congress’s feet that will need to be held to the fire. Conservatives demogoguing it will ensure that the libs won’t touch it.

I’m beginning to wonder if that has been the Presidents plan all of this time. Maybe he knows that the only way to save this country is for another Revolution and get rid of all of the slime inside this great country.

I attended a CATO meeting on Wednesday that had an open borders type, Jason Riley of the WSJ, promoting his new book, "Let them in." Michael Barone spoke as well. His remarks were disappointing. He was saying that the anti-immigrant Reps would have to adapt or die as a party.

Is that the way Barone stated it,"anti-immigrant"? If so, why can't these people get it right? We are not anti-immigrant, only anti-illegal alien. We are against amnesty, rewarding law breakers. These people like Michael Barone make their living with words. They are over paid.