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To: sobieski

Pat’s apologize for Hitler are like those who excused Lenin, Trotsky, and Stalin for their crimes because the US and England supported the Whites in the Russian Civil War. Pat’s like those who excuse Castro’s murders and prisons because we don’t trade with Castro. Need I go on?


334 posted on 06/21/2008 11:17:32 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Isolationism and pacifism: the soft underbelly of American freedom.)
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To: elhombrelibre

Yes, because Pat does not excuse Hitler, nor does he say that he was right, nor does he say that the Holocaust was right. He does not apologize for him in any way. Rather, he points out how the Western ‘statesmen’ misplayed their hands, did not contain the Germans and that led to an awful war, not a ‘good’ war. As Pat said, how ‘good’ could it have been to have so many of Poland’s Jews destroyed and Poland consigned to Soviet domination, in part due to a pledge by the British that could not and would not be honored. Isn’t that the point of history, to see what mistakes were made and to see how to avoid them in the future

The US dealt with Stalin and the USSR differently. Even though there was the genocide of the Ukrainians, as well as millions consigned to the Gulag, the West chose to avoid war. (Probably b/c the Democrat party was allied with the Communists at some level in this country). We can question which approach was correct. The mistake is taking questions off the table.


335 posted on 06/21/2008 11:24:14 AM PDT by sobieski
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