[SJackson]

He was right on Demaniuk. Come on, you can say it.

No he wasn't, John Demjanjuk was irrefutably an SS guard at several camps, but probably not Ivan the Terrible. He entered the US illegally, and was stripped of his citizenship a second time after being returned. He's currently awaiting deportation, if anyone will have him.

And Pat was wrong in his dalliance with pure Holocaust denial about diesel fumes, you can kill Jews with them. In fact the technique was pioneered on Polish military and political prisoners, who were majority Christian. Jews, Christians, you can kill them both with gas no matter what Pat says.

[wideawake]

Indeed. See post 243.

[sobieski]

I though Demaniuk was ‘irrefutably’ Ivan the Terrible.

[Hacksaw]

No he wasn't, John Demjanjuk was irrefutably an SS guard at several camps, but probably not Ivan the Terrible. He entered the US illegally, and was stripped of his citizenship a second time after being returned. He's currently awaiting deportation, if anyone will have him.

That's like saying we captured Osama, and then the guy turns out to be his goat herder.