Posted on 06/20/2008 8:09:07 AM PDT by XR7
Anybody disagree with him?
So why register your church with the IRS and agree not to endorse candidates in the first place?
Unfortunately it often happens the other way around - Democrats.
It is possible to avoid this entirely by citing scripture and saying that Christians need to vote for the pro life, pro family candidates. Then handout questionnaires/checklists of where everyone stands after the service.
....Sharpton and Jackson laughing their asses off right now
Hey!!!!!!
I agree with you!!!
:-)
the there's the WWJD thingy - He kept the two entities separated: "Render unto Caesar..." and
his action is akin to the folk who refuse to pay income tax and end up behind bars, with nada accomplished - and lastly -
I wonder if he first got his congregations approval to put the church in jeopardy of financial ruin?
Sometimes, whistling into the wind is just a futile act. Spitting into the wind is a foolish one.
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You suck at the master’s teat, you play by the master’s rules.
They rendered their church unto Caesar when they voluntarily registered as a 501c3 corporation with the IRS.
The IRS giveth and the IRS taketh away.
Without going to the link, is there any mention of Democrats and “Black Churches” or Jessie, or Al or Jermemiah?
Bro, we probably agree on 98% of issues. We just disagree on your favorite talk show host, and maybe favorite flavor of Ice Cream (Chocolate).
There are so many ways a pastor can talk politics as far as who and who not to vote for you just have to word it right. without ever mentioning a party by name just layout what a supposed good Christian should and should not stand for based on Biblical truths.
If I want an unsolicited worthless political opinion, I can always rely on the MSM. When I go to church, I would like to learn something about spiritual things that I do not already know. And what I do not know about spiritual things is infinite. When it comes to politics I know too much, I have to make a simple choice. Do I choose the Devil I do know or do I choose the Devil I don’t know.
First of all, ‘separation of church and state’ appears no where in the U.S. Constitution; it’s a fabrication allegedly founded on the ‘establishment’ clause. Secondly, this IRS harassment will focus exclusively on white conservative institutions and completely ignore the goings on in churhes operated by the likes of Reverend Wright (that would be racist-Wright gets mentioned, finally, at page 3 of the above article). This selective persecution will get a ‘pass’ from the MSM, as did the Clintons use of the FBI to gather intelligence on political enemies and the selective use of IRS audits to intimidate conservative organizations like the Heritage Foundation. An Obama presidency, along with the full support of the alleged ‘watchdog’ media, will be the beginning of the end of civil liberties in America. As is is now on many college campuese, the key to survival will be KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT AND DO NOTHING TO REVEAL YOUR THOUGHTS.
The worst that can happen is the church will lose its tax-free status. Some would say, myself included, that this would be a good thing. Now the pastor is truly free to preach the whole Word of God without any government restrictions. He could back any candidate he wanted to and even name names. They may have to cut a program or two because of a tighter budget, though.
(I gag when I say former church because Obama only gave up his membership for political purposes, not because he disagrees with anything that was preached there.)
No.
Other "non-profit, tax-exempt organizations as well have no problem with endorsing liberal candidates: NEA, Planned Parenthood, et al.
It is only when conservstive congregations and pastors come out favoring pro-life, pro-family, pro-faith messages from the bible, face IRS "investigations" (some might refer to them as "inquisitions") from the secular, leftist, hate-mongering "IRS".
And then only when "congressional or private citizens" report them and have the strong arm of the (in)Justice Department come after them.
I’ve fought against leftist politics in my own church but I’ve backed off my earlier position of banning politics in the pulpit. My position is now that they can do as they please, but I reserve the right to debate, withhold funds, or just leave.
This is clearly designed to create a test case. If the pastor has the approval of his board of deacons (or it’s equivalent), then more power to him.
It is constitutionally questionable that the United States restricts constitutional rights in order for a bona fide religious organization to be tax exempt.
--Jim Croce
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