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To: Osage Orange
How can it be a waste...if you give the "same dollars" that we are spending/wasting now...to the individuals..who then decide where they go to school?

I'm not saying it's not a better system than what most of the country uses. What I am saying is that I see fifth generation families on welfare who can't afford anything spending $200 on a pair of sneakers or $400 on an X-box, but there isn't a book or magazine in the house. To me, that says they don't value education very much and, as such, I'm not too inclined to spend more on them.

No matter the school..there will always be those that won't/don't learn.

Very true. Perhaps one solution is to let them take vocational education only, rather than traditional courses. Another solution is to encourage them to take advantage of the largest and best vocational training institution in the world: the military. They'd learn a skill and find self-worth along the way.

Do you give any of this burden to the teachers, system, etc..?

There's enough blame to go around for teachers, administrators, and parents. My experience, however, it that the parents should shoulder the largest share of the blame for their kids' failures.

28 posted on 06/18/2008 7:08:39 AM PDT by econjack
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To: econjack
I'm not saying it's not a better system than what most of the country uses. What I am saying is that I see fifth generation families on welfare who can't afford anything spending $200 on a pair of sneakers or $400 on an X-box, but there isn't a book or magazine in the house. To me, that says they don't value education very much and, as such, I'm not too inclined to spend more on them.

Who is talking about giving "more"?

Very true. Perhaps one solution is to let them take vocational education only, rather than traditional courses. Another solution is to encourage them to take advantage of the largest and best vocational training institution in the world: the military. They'd learn a skill and find self-worth along the way.

I've no problem with either of those solutions. Maybe if we gave people those "choices" with vouchers they would take it.

There's enough blame to go around for teachers, administrators, and parents. My experience, however, it that the parents should shoulder the largest share of the blame for their kids' failures.

We can sling blame around 24/7...it doesn't solve the problem. The NEA has a ve$ted interest in keeping things like they are. And that is the FIRST obstacle, IMO. Why not tackle the things we are more likely to change?

37 posted on 06/18/2008 7:28:34 AM PDT by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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