Posted on 06/17/2008 6:00:53 PM PDT by freespirited
If the document and the date stamp on the back are legit then this document was requested from the state a year ago — when Obama’s hopes of the nomination were still extremely slim to none. Shrillary was supposed to be the annointed one. I doubt anyone but Obama’s own campaign would have been thinking about his birth certificate in June 2007..... or maybe the Clintonista opposition research?
OTOH, if the certificate is just a fraudulent mock-up then the date stamp could have been added recently to make it appear to have been issued a year ago?? But could the “date stamp in reverse” have been made to look like it had been machine-stamped on the back of a doc that has been created in Photoshop?? Anyone know?
I think only immediate family members could get a copy... unless you’re the Messiah from Hawaiiah.
The most logically reason to put this out to KOS is when it is discovered to be fake, at least the Obama camp can deny any responsibility for it. If the document was legit, there is no reason for Obama's camp not to officially release to some reliable media source. The release of this was damage control, but it was done in a manner that raises bigger questions.
Thanks. Makes sense what you say (and what about BHO’s father’s race listed as “African?”)...I do not think we’ve heard the last of this.
I think the exact document on KOS is on Obama’s site, too.
BUMP!
In 1961, Obama’s father’s race would have been listed as Negro.
But could the “date stamp in reverse” have been made to look like it had been machine-stamped on the back of a doc that has been created in Photoshop??
I could do that easily. reversing the text just means you create a mirror image and flip it upside down then removing portions to give it that stamped look.
Here is something I did for a Motorcycle site.
Believe it or not it is all in english but I flipped it and reversed it to make it appear to be in Korean or Chinese.
The people who produced this (apparently) fake document are certainly quite familiar with the Rathergate memo and all the analysis that went into exposing THAT cheap forgery. This forgery is much better, but still an obvious forgery. I suspect that this fake document was MEANT to be uncovered by internet warriors.
Personally, this looks to me like another one of those planted John Kerry/Alexandra Polier scandals. The rats plant fake scandals like seeds in order to innoculate themselves from the real scandals that they know will come up later.
All the artifacts you show from the BHO certificate look exactly like jpeg artifacts to my eyes.
Clearly (If I may use that expression!) the document was created on a computer printer from a State of HI database, and somebody along the way converted it from whatever original format, maybe a scan of the hard copy, into rather artifacted jpeg.
A photocopy of my own BC, made decades ago, was embossed with a stamp from the County Clerk, but they may not do that any more.
This is what has led me to believe that it is possible Obama is actually OLDER than he claims to be. If he were just three years older he would NOT be eligible to even run for the office of president because Hawaii wasn’t a state at that time.
Hey, it's a bunch of HI state bureaucrats, OK?
A wonder it would be if it were perfect!
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In the hopes of course on muting the real scandals by a burn out factor as we have seen here with this one already...
These threads are attacked constantly by those that don’t want these things pursued, what are they going to do when a real scandal breaks ignore it as well?
And isn’t a deliberate forgery still a forgery even if it is meant to be exposed as such?
I'd thought of that, Obama doesn't exactly seem 46.
Please see my #92. Thanks.
That posting of a faked Certification of Birth is good enough for me...How about if the RNC takes this to court to ask the Court to determine whether Obama is a natural born citizen of the United States?..That would force Obama to produce his real birth certificate where it could be examined by experts..For all we know he may have been born in the Philippines or in Kenya and is therefore not a natural born US Citizen...The question of ‘natural born citizen’ has never been addressed by the Supreme Court directly..Still, it would be interesting to see where he was born and what proof he has to show...
The RNC should realize this is not to see who becomes head Scoutmaster but the President of the United States...
Source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born_citizen
obumpa
There is no doubt in my mind that the document is fake so the date would have to been altered to show he was a citizen of the United States and not a foreign country which Hawaii was in 1958 or sometime in 1959.
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