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To: AndyJackson

You see. There you go again
Enemy combatants don’t get constitutional rights.


157 posted on 06/15/2008 5:27:51 PM PDT by smoketree (the insanity, the lunacy these days)
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To: smoketree
Suppose you are not an enemy combatant, but someone says you are. Do you get constitutional rights? Suppose you are a US citizen but they don't believe you and think you are traveling on a forged passport, and you are a terrorist, but they waterboard you and learn nothing to lead them to believe that you are a terrorist. Furthermore after six months they discover that you really are a US citizen, and now, if released, you have a $100M lawsuit against the US government. Do they let you go or hold you? Without right to a habeas hearing how do you secure your release? Or are you an enemy combatant because someone said you were, and he wouldn't have said you were if you weren't.

Well the US government put the full weight of the US government behind proving that the Haditha marines were guilty. In fact they tried to get them all to plead so they would have to prove it. Guess what? So far they are innocent. Why would the US military say they are guilty if they are innocent? Don't they have constitutional oaths? Surely the prosecutors and convening officers didn't violate their oaths under the constitution? Or the civilian officials placed over them. They didn't beak their oaths did they? So the Haditha marines must be guilty. Except some officers said they weren't. Under oath, on a Court Martial panel. Someone broke his oath. Who?

That is why we have an f'in constitution.

Or I am a leftist and the Haditha marines were not improperly prosecuted. Or maybe, since they demanded to exercise their rights under the constitution they are leftists to.

160 posted on 06/15/2008 5:43:49 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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