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Elian Gonzalez joins Cuba's youth Communists
CNN.com ^ | 06/15/2008 | Unattributed

Posted on 06/15/2008 11:58:44 AM PDT by Glenn

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To: EDINVA

It was the father’s right and responsibility to have the kid. Are you saying all kids should be forcebly removed from their Cuban parents? Or just the ones we can get our hands on?


41 posted on 06/15/2008 3:28:24 PM PDT by purpleraine
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To: humblegunner
You really are ignorant, and for your information Cuba is led by a dictator who has denied its citizens freedom. (Communist Nation)Cubans that escape Cuba are political refugees not illegal Aliens.
42 posted on 06/15/2008 3:32:40 PM PDT by Kaslin (The Nation will live to regret what the Court has done today. I dissent. Justice Scalia)
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To: purpleraine

Given your bizarre and ludicrous statements, madam, you’re obviously a troll and a damnable idiot.


43 posted on 06/15/2008 3:35:49 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
So someone who believes in the rights and responsibilities of a parent is a troll. But someone who believes in taking a child away from their surviving parent when the other one has died, is an upstanding American. What wacky world are you living in?

Given your personal abusive attacks upon me, I must have struck a nerve pointing out your immoral position. How long do I have to be here to call you names and get away with it?

I close your case. Again!

44 posted on 06/15/2008 3:40:57 PM PDT by purpleraine
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To: EDINVA

Doesn’t matter to the troller from DU. They don’t get there’s only one father in Cuba, and his name is Fidel. BTW, the idiot also doesn’t remember the OFFER to the birth father political asylum to stay with Elian and he wouldn’t take it. He was a brainwashed puppet. The mother wasn’t. May God bless her, and may God damn Clinton and Reno for their act of evil in kicking a dead mother and her ultimate act of sacrifice right in the face.


45 posted on 06/15/2008 3:42:08 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Glenn
The National Council of Churches and the United Methodist Church had a huge role in sending Elian back to Cuba. For all the Freepers who still attend one of these "churches", you're partly responsible.

• African Methodist Episcopal Church
• The African Methodist Episcopal Zion Church
• Alliance of Baptists
• American Baptist Churches in the USA
• Diocese of the Armenian Church of America
• Christian Church (Disciples of Christ)
• Christian Methodist Episcopal Church
• Church of the Brethren
• The Coptic Orthodox Church in North America
• The Episcopal Church
• Evangelical Lutheran Church in America
• Friends United Meeting
• Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America
• Hungarian Reformed Church in America
• International Council of Community Churches
• Korean Presbyterian Church in America
• Malankara Orthodox Syrian Church
• Mar Thoma Church
• Moravian Church in America Northern Province and Southern Province
• National Baptist Convention of America
• National Baptist Convention, U.S.A., Inc.
• National Missionary Baptist Convention of America
• Orthodox Church in America
• Patriarchal Parishes of the Russian Orthodox Church in the USA
• Philadelphia Yearly Meeting of the Religious Society of Friends
• Polish National Catholic Church of America
• Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.)
• Progressive National Baptist Convention, Inc.
• Reformed Church in America
• Serbian Orthodox Church in the U.S.A. and Canada
• The Swedenborgian Church
• Syrian Orthodox Church of Antioch
• Ukrainian Orthodox Church of America
• United Church of Christ
• The United Methodist Church •

46 posted on 06/15/2008 3:44:29 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: purpleraine

I reiterate to you, troll, you are an ignorant idiot. You know NOTHING about this matter even after the facts have been drilled into your head. You sound like a paid Fidel agent to spew forth disinformation and lies on this board. As for immoral, your position is the walking embodiment of it. Shame on you.


47 posted on 06/15/2008 3:45:35 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

If you call someone names and heap personal abuse upon them, shouldn’t you have the courage to ping them in reply?


48 posted on 06/15/2008 3:45:46 PM PDT by purpleraine
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To: Glenn
The National Council of Churches and the United Methodist Church had a huge role in sending Elian back to Cuba. For all the Freepers who still attend one of these "churches", you're partly responsible.

• African Methodist Episcopal Church
• The African Methodist Episcopal Zion Church
• Alliance of Baptists
• American Baptist Churches in the USA
• Diocese of the Armenian Church of America
• Christian Church (Disciples of Christ)
• Christian Methodist Episcopal Church
• Church of the Brethren
• The Coptic Orthodox Church in North America
• The Episcopal Church
• Evangelical Lutheran Church in America
• Friends United Meeting
• Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America
• Hungarian Reformed Church in America
• International Council of Community Churches
• Korean Presbyterian Church in America
• Malankara Orthodox Syrian Church
• Mar Thoma Church
• Moravian Church in America Northern Province and Southern Province
• National Baptist Convention of America
• National Baptist Convention, U.S.A., Inc.
• National Missionary Baptist Convention of America
• Orthodox Church in America
• Patriarchal Parishes of the Russian Orthodox Church in the USA
• Philadelphia Yearly Meeting of the Religious Society of Friends
• Polish National Catholic Church of America
• Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.)
• Progressive National Baptist Convention, Inc.
• Reformed Church in America
• Serbian Orthodox Church in the U.S.A. and Canada
• The Swedenborgian Church
• Syrian Orthodox Church of Antioch
• Ukrainian Orthodox Church of America
• United Church of Christ
• The United Methodist Church •

49 posted on 06/15/2008 3:45:51 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

The National Council of Churches is nothing but a Communist apologist group led by the ultraleft rodent ex-Congressman Bob Edgar.


50 posted on 06/15/2008 3:48:12 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: purpleraine

What absurd and irrational questions!

The child had two parents. Are you forgetting that his custodial parent chose to get him out of Cuba and to the USA? It’s not a matter of ‘getting our hands on him,” since his mother risked and lost her life in her attempt to let her child live in freedom.

No one from the US went to Cuba to try to get Elian or any other Cuban child out... at great risk, many Cubans have chosen to do that on their own.

Elian’s mother’s death left the father as the only parent to make decisions for the child’s life. IIRC, the father had had nothing to do with Elian before he became an international political issue, and was dispatched by Castro to the US to exercise his previously unexercised parental rights.

So, bottom line, yes, the father had that right, but the choice to get him out of Cuba was that of the custodial parent in her lifetime.


51 posted on 06/15/2008 3:48:49 PM PDT by EDINVA (Proud American for 23,062 days.... and counting!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Shame on you for not recognizing the rights and responsibilities of a parent because you are blinded by your hatred for certain politicians.

Shame on you for your inconsistency, by not working to free all the other kids in communist countries.

Shame on you for personally attacking someone who has to remind you, you don't have a say over someone else's kid.

Shame on you for running out of manners and logic because your argument was bested and resorting to virulent name-calling.

But you know nothing of shame or you wouldn't act so shamefully.

52 posted on 06/15/2008 3:50:21 PM PDT by purpleraine
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To: EDINVA

When the custodial parent died, the responsibility and rights went to the surviving parent. Under what authority or reasoning would you violate that principle?


53 posted on 06/15/2008 3:52:04 PM PDT by purpleraine
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To: purpleraine

You’re on the wrong forum, troll. We don’t cater to paid Fidel apologists on this board.


54 posted on 06/15/2008 3:59:57 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

..........and you don’t cater to parents either. You can troll til the cows come home and name call all you want. If that’s all you got, then ask yourself, who’s the real troll?


55 posted on 06/15/2008 4:02:03 PM PDT by purpleraine
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To: fieldmarshaldj
How would you suggest people fleeing a slave gulag should arrive ?

Get in line like everyone else.

56 posted on 06/15/2008 4:05:04 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Kaslin
You really are ignorant, and for your information Cuba is led by a dictator

Makes no difference.

Paco, Maria & Illegal Elian need to get in line.

57 posted on 06/15/2008 4:07:02 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

Maybe they were banned??? What was the atmosphere on FR?


58 posted on 06/15/2008 4:07:51 PM PDT by threeoeight
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To: fieldmarshaldj

IIRC Commie/Democrat/so-called Methodist “minister” has moved on to something else and he’s been replaced with another Commie/Democrat. Please, Freepers, if you’re attending one of these churches, please get out!!!


59 posted on 06/15/2008 4:09:11 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: fieldmarshaldj
So I guesss I can go to Cuba, Vietnam or some other totalitarian country and just take someone's kid?
60 posted on 06/15/2008 4:10:15 PM PDT by Dagnabitt (Jihad is for wankers)
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