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Elian Gonzalez joins Cuba's youth Communists
CNN.com ^ | 06/15/2008 | Unattributed

Posted on 06/15/2008 11:58:44 AM PDT by Glenn

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To: Glenn

Thank you, you mango tree lawyer, Greg Craig.

Your two little crooked friends in the Republic of Panama are waiting to win their case too: Crooked ex president Ernesto Perez Valladares wants his U.S. visa back which was lifted for exporting illegal Chinese to the U.S.

You are charging him $2,000,000 for that. He can afford it. He stole the country blind like all other politician in other country around the world do to include the U.S. of A.

Then there is Pedro Miguel González who murdered by gunfire a Puerto Rican U.S. soldier, Zak Hernandez, in 1992.

The question is where is Pedro Miguel González getting the millions to pay your mango tree fees?

The reality is, this mango tree lawyer is thick as thieves with BO. Should BO become president, both Perez Valladares and Gonzalez will get an U.S. presidential pardon.


21 posted on 06/15/2008 1:50:09 PM PDT by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: BunnySlippers
His father and family are getting big perks. I put no stock in what he says now or ever.

I would give great weight to that scenario. He's a living propaganda piece -- another tool in the hands of a dictator. He'll wake up someday.

22 posted on 06/15/2008 1:51:36 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (" ")
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To: the invisib1e hand

I wouldn’t be surprised if he “went into politics” as he is a national hero. Of course, Cuba will be very different once Fidel is gone which appears imminent.


23 posted on 06/15/2008 1:56:49 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: BunnySlippers
"His father and family are getting big perks. I put no stock in what he says now or ever."

I wonder if there is any inside information about the true nature of Elian's situation coming out of Cuba? I'm going on a Google hunt. . . be back.

24 posted on 06/15/2008 1:59:53 PM PDT by jonrick46
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To: jonrick46
Wikipedia is a good start. He and his family are being coddled. Here he is declaring his devotion to Fidel.


25 posted on 06/15/2008 2:09:02 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: NativeNewYorker
One of the last times I watched CNN ( this was live on that channel ) and the last time I was ill about what I saw, people being sprayed like cockroaches. At first I thought, well they must be getting some resistance. I then noticed the people were just there and some probably would have got well out of the way if given a chance. When Janet Reno get to hell it's just one more thing she'll burn for.

Whatever law enforcement is, this wasn't it.

BTW whatever happened to the FR send Elian back crowd's ( there were some ) claim that doing such would help other Americans involved in international custody cases at that time? Didn't help them one bit. That crowd got awful quiet later as they hoped nobody would remember.

26 posted on 06/15/2008 2:09:34 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: NativeNewYorker
Thanks for resizing that.


27 posted on 06/15/2008 2:13:33 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: purpleraine
There are NO parental rights under Cuban law. Children are expressely the property of the state (and the state is Fidel). The mother made her wishes explicitly clear when she died getting her child to freedom. Case closed.
28 posted on 06/15/2008 2:15:07 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Case closed/Mind closed!

When the mother died, the father is in charge. Parental rights are human rights neither you nor Castro have the right to interfere. Don't you hate it that nobody asked you to vote on the kid's status.

If Castro has no right to the kid, what makes you think you do?

29 posted on 06/15/2008 2:17:47 PM PDT by purpleraine
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Where were you when this happened ? Because you apparently weren’t there at the time with your woeful ignorance of the situation.

Firstly, what part of “there are NO parental rights in Cuba” do you not grasp ? Children are SLAVES, property, chattel, of the state. Parents have NO say in their children’s lives. Children are TAKEN from the parents to be politically indoctrinated, as Elian has been. You got it ? You have some very peculiar notion that they were all going to be reunited and live happily ever after. That ain’t how it works in Cuba, the Socialist liberal paradise.

The father was ORDERED to retrieve the child for Fidel’s vanity and failure to comply would’ve meant his immediate family would’ve never been heard from again. I remember well their rehearsed Stepford-wife like responses from the “family” wanting the child back on the gulag. It was appalling.

The mother DIED getting her child away from that gulag. She died. Her wishes and actions said it all. You spit in her face denying the ultimate sacrificial act in getting her child to freedom that she made.

For a father to knowingly participate in a conspiracy to bring a child back to such a horrible place was nothing short of evil. He should’ve told Fidel to go to hell.

Oh, and btw, FRiend, Elian was denied due process in our country ahead of a likely judicial ruling approving his stay (Elian WAS here legally and he had a loving family in Florida caring for him, a cousin he was bonding with as a surrogate mother — and ripped away from them at gunpoint in a Gestapo/stormtrooper raid Hitler would’ve approved of). Clinton/Reno weren’t going to wait on something as “trivial” as a judge knowing right from wrong and was following Fidel’s orders. The orders from a psychotic despot whom has enslaved millions and killed untold tens of thousands (if not hundreds) all to get a child that caused him personal embarrassment. Sick, twisted, and evil.

Truth’s a bitch, ain’t it ?


30 posted on 06/15/2008 2:46:21 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Thank you.


31 posted on 06/15/2008 2:48:32 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Are you ready to pray for Teddy?)
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To: humblegunner
However sad the story, illegal = illegal.

What are you talking about illegal? For your information Cuban's are not illegals. You need to get informed

32 posted on 06/15/2008 2:51:35 PM PDT by Kaslin (The Nation will live to regret what the Court has done today. I dissent. Justice Scalia)
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To: Kaslin
For your information Cuban's are not illegals.

Washing up on the shore is an acceptable immigration practice?

You need to get informed

You need to get real.

Every piece of garbage that washes ashore is not a treasure.

33 posted on 06/15/2008 2:57:19 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: BunnySlippers
It seems as if Fidel Castro and brother Raul have been taking a special interest to Elian. Elian, 14 who became a teenager December 6th 2007, had to “celebrate” his birthday party in the presence of two “viejos cagalitrosos,” the new dictator-in-chief Raul Castro and Ricardo “Watermellon Head” Alarcon.

It seems as if Elian has a special talent for swimming. He won for his school the 25-meter swimming contest in 2007. He receives good grades and that he is the leader of his student collective at the ‘Esteban Hernandez’ junior high, where he is in the ninth grade.

Elian’s father, Juan Miguel Gonzalez, is now a member of the national assembly, the island’s congress that selected Raul Castro as president after his ailing older brother Fidel Castro resigned in February. Being a member of the Communist elite, Juan Miquel enjoys special treatment as we can guess by what information one could get.

34 posted on 06/15/2008 3:04:45 PM PDT by jonrick46
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To: Revolting cat!

You’re welcome. ;-)

It is shocking the level of ignorance on this issue in some quarters still after these many years. They don’t understand that parental (and indeed, individual) rights have a different meaning in a totalitarian regime. “Rights” do not exist.


35 posted on 06/15/2008 3:07:57 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: humblegunner
"Washing up on the shore is an acceptable immigration practice?"

How would you suggest people fleeing a slave gulag should arrive ? On the f*cking Love Boat ?

36 posted on 06/15/2008 3:09:40 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

It was a shameful episode and the MSM played their part to maintain and foster that ignorance. My, what theater it was the father’s trip and performance under the gun.


37 posted on 06/15/2008 3:13:43 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Are you ready to pray for Teddy?)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
I thought your case was closed.

You're making a case for no kids in communist countries. Where were you? Why aren't you down in Mexico Cioty stopping all children from getting on the flights to Havana. I guess your morality only extends to kids you can easilly get your hands on.

My peculiar notion is that a kid goes to the surviving parent. Sorry you had to be taught that by a communist, but you should have known that all along. Basic parenting right and responsibility.

Your nanny state attitude would separate the kid and the parent. What the hell is wrong with you?

You're right; the truth is a bitch. A cold one at that.

38 posted on 06/15/2008 3:24:00 PM PDT by purpleraine
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To: purpleraine

his mother died trying to get Elian to freedom in the USA; that left the father, under Castro, to decide Elian should be a good Communist .. with a little help from Janet Reno.


39 posted on 06/15/2008 3:24:19 PM PDT by EDINVA (Proud American for 23,062 days.... and counting!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Just saw your 35. Let’s see. Castro won’t give parent’s rights, so we have the right to deny the rights by taking the kid away from the father. You don’t see the idiocy of your position? What makes you any better than Castro?


40 posted on 06/15/2008 3:26:29 PM PDT by purpleraine
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