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1 posted on 06/13/2008 3:43:58 PM PDT by truthfinder9
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It's time for politicians to stop pandering to the special interests who, with one hand, peddle plenty of faux solutions and, with the other, perpetually demand subsidies. It's time for the ecocratic wing nuts to get with the program. It's time for us to meet our challenges head-on -- to lead and not to follow.

This isn't the exception for Washington, it's the rule!! Any doubt that our government is irrevocably broken?? The circus isn't in town, but the clowns sure are!!!

2 posted on 06/13/2008 4:01:00 PM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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Here is my energy policy:

OIL- Drill anywhere and everywhere we think there is recoverable oil. Screw Sierra Club and National Resources Defense Council. Oil drilling does not hurt the enviroment anyway. It has a VERY small footprint.
Bio-Fuels- NO! Unless we can made cellulosic ethanol work with bio material NOT used for food.
CTL (coal-to-liquid) - YES! We are going to have to do this anyway so why not get started now. It is expensive but we know this works. With oil at $130 a barrel it is very viable.
GTL (gas-to-liquid) YES! Same as CTL above.
NUCLEAR- YES! YES! YES! We need a ambitious program NOW!
SOLAR- YES, if it can survive without subsidies.
WIND- YES (see SOLAR above).
HYDROGEN- Off in the distant future. Keep research going. If there is a breakthrough then fantastic. However we cannot depend on a breakthrough. We need Nuclear Power to get the hydrogen by cracking H2O.

If we can do these things then we can break out of this morass. We need leadership and we will not get it from Obama. We will not get it from Democrats.

3 posted on 06/13/2008 4:07:53 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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The Bakken fields that run below North Dakota, Montana and Canada are estimated to hold 400 billion barrels of oil shale.

This field is not oil shale, which is a rock that contains kerogen, not crude oil.

The Bakken Field contains a lot of oil, nobody knows exactly how much. It's crude oil, much of it trapped in shale, not oil shale or kerogen. It's just not easy to extract.

4 posted on 06/13/2008 4:09:41 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves. - A. Lincoln)
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Addendum to above:

NATURAL GAS-Stop using natural gas to generate electricity. Do you hear me California! Natural Gas is too valuable to use for generating electricity. We need Natural Gas for industrial purposes and for conversion to liquid gas. It can be used for transportation. We should start building LNG terminals on the West Coast so we can bring down Natural Gas from Alaska. Start at Malibu. I do not care what the beautiful people think. Scre* them. We need an LNG facility at Seattle, Portland, SF Bay Area, Los Angeles and San Diego.

Let's get going!

6 posted on 06/13/2008 4:14:54 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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There is no oil shortage.

There are 10% more proven reserves today than there were 10 years ago, despite all the stuff used in the meantime. 20% if you count the now economic sources previously priced out, like Canadian tar sands.

The *error bars* on how much energy is available from known reserves of *coal*, are larger than the entire world's proven oil reserves. Oil is only 1/6th of the proven fossil fuel reserve.

The middle east has 82 years of proven reserves at present rates of production.

Demand is slow, as slow as population growth, worldwide, over the last 5 years.

High oil prices aren't driven by the dollar and hyperinflation, as the press tries to spin things, either. The dollar is down a third against the strongest currencies in the world and more like 10-15% on a trade weighted basis, while oil is up 4 fold over the same span. Meanwhile, the M1 narrow money supply hasn't moved at all since 2005.

It is a bubble.

The driving forces are -

(1) Iran getting nukes
(2) Russia, Iran, and Venezuela anti-American bloc
(3) Green nonsense outlawing all development
(4) Ridiculous globaloney about CO2
(5) Fear of CO2 taxation preventing other fossil fuel use
(6) The same braintrust that brought you dotcom, Enron, and real estate bubbles blowing a new one.

It is all a concerted attack on the strategic position of the US. But there is nothing behind it but sheer chutzpa and wind. If we told them to get lost we'd be fine.

We aren't. So there will be hell to pay, anyway.

9 posted on 06/13/2008 4:27:59 PM PDT by JasonC
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We very clearly have it within our means to divorce ourselves entirely from imported oil...if we could only muster the cajones to tell the DhimmiRats, enviro-whackos, and tree huggers to sit down and shut up while the rest of us save their petty a$$e$ one more time.

It’s going to take all of us shouting from the rooftops to get the idjits in DC to listen up.

We don’t need to tolerate environmental disasters to accomplish this, either. We already know how to do this cleanly and efficiently. If the bureaucrats and luddites will get out of the way.

Time to reclaim the country...again...


14 posted on 06/13/2008 4:45:38 PM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion)
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“... a billion barrels of oil per square mile under Colorado....”
What moron publishes this stuff?


16 posted on 06/13/2008 5:03:54 PM PDT by whipitgood (Neither of, by, nor for the people any longer...)
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