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To: ken21
the moslems want to kill obama because he converted to christianity,...and some christians don’t want to vote for him because he was once moslem and is black or whatever.

Speaking only for myself, I couldn't care less why jihadists might want to harm him, being President is enough, and I'm not going to allow a terrorist to impact my vote.

It would seem that Christians should be pleased he converted. I hear conversion as a was of defeating jihad advocated all the time.

The real issue is his duplicity. It would appear that like his personal relationships and religious training in Christianity via Rev. Wright, he lies about the nature of his beliefs.

He had a dysfunctional family life. Were he raised a nominal Muslim as a young child, then as a nominal Christian from ten on, finally finding Christianity as a adult, fine. But why not admit it? The fact that he conceals his innermost beliefs is disturbing. And no, that doesn't mean he's a "stealth Muslim", but it probably means he's a racist and Marxist, like the people he acknowledges had the greatest impact on his life. Obviously he's comfortable around radical Muslims, particularly Nation of Islam types.

13 posted on 06/13/2008 3:46:44 PM PDT by SJackson (It is impossible to build a peace process based on blood, Natan Sharansky)
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To: SJackson
He had a dysfunctional family life. Were he raised a nominal Muslim as a young child, then as a nominal Christian from ten on, finally finding Christianity as a adult, fine. But why not admit it? The fact that he conceals his innermost beliefs is disturbing. And no, that doesn't mean he's a "stealth Muslim", but it probably means he's a racist and Marxist, like the people he acknowledges had the greatest impact on his life. Obviously he's comfortable around radical Muslims, particularly Nation of Islam types.

That's exactly the point. None of us, before age 10, had any control over what religion we were raised in. Nobody needs to apologize for that.

But it says something else entirely when you deny the truth.

36 posted on 06/13/2008 4:11:37 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: SJackson; Dog Gone

Good posts.

I believe the religion angle would be overblown except for St. Barack’s [pbuh] evasions and attempts to write his own history the way he wants to. I believe he is not religious, does not “cling” to religion, but uses religion as a tool. I call him St. Barack [pbuh] acknowledging two faiths not that he embraces them, but how he thinks he should be regarded by them.


45 posted on 06/13/2008 4:38:02 PM PDT by Shermy (Handlebars, Flobots. A prophecy about egomania, megalomania and Obama.)
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To: SJackson
Now Obama's half-brother claims he grew up a Moslem. Obama could try to dodge this one by saying that he only met Malik once and got dressed in Moslem garb in Kenya (as seen in the photo) merely to make his paternal relatives feel comfortable with him, and giving Malik an erroneous impression.

But we kind of knew for quite some time that he did go to an Islamic school in Indonesia as a youngster, which he tried to disguise as a "secular school" during the presidential campaign. How often can he get away with reinventing his history? Apparently some of those in the predominantly Jewish audience at the AIPAC speech last week - those that reportedly gave him a "rousing applause" - will believe anything this Manchurian candidate says.

63 posted on 06/13/2008 6:11:53 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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