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Relax, liberals. You've already won
Salon ^ | June 10, 2008 | Michael Lind

Posted on 06/12/2008 3:11:39 PM PDT by forkinsocket

No matter who prevails at the ballot box in November, John McCain or Barack Obama, the four-decade-long conservative counterrevolution is over.

Now that Hillary Clinton has conceded the Democratic nomination to Barack Obama, the primaries are over and the general election campaign for the White House has begun. On the Republican side, however, the general election campaign began months ago -- and presumptive nominee John McCain has spent much of that time tacking toward the center. He praised multilateralism in a March 26 speech in Los Angeles and in general is trying to appear more like an Eisenhower Republican than a Reagan Republican. True, every four years all major-party presidential candidates race toward the center. But in the last decade, even during the seven-plus years of the Bush presidency, the center of American politics has moved considerably to the left. Whether Obama or McCain wins the White House, liberalism has already won the national debate about the future of the country.

For 40 years, the radical right tried to destroy the domestic and international order that American liberals created in the central decades of the 20th century. The people who are known today as "conservatives" are better described as "counterrevolutionaries." The goal of Barry Goldwater and the intellectuals clustered around William F. Buckley Jr.'s National Review was not a slightly more conservative version of the New Deal or the U.N. system. They were reactionary radicals who dreamed of a counterrevolution. They didn't just want to stop the clock. They wanted to turn it back.

Three great accomplishments defined midcentury American liberalism: liberal internationalism, middle-class entitlements like Social Security and Medicare, and liberal individualism in civil rights and the culture at large.

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To: indylindy

What the matter,....you can call me and anyone else all kinds of names....but can’t take it?

Like my Mom always said...”if you dish it out...be prepared to get it back”...an you have a nice day!


41 posted on 06/13/2008 9:25:18 AM PDT by HappyinAZ
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To: Rome2000

Actually, fighting back against a nem caller...IS demonstrating self respect. Have a lovely day!


42 posted on 06/13/2008 9:26:39 AM PDT by HappyinAZ
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To: Rome2000

Actually, fighting back against a name caller...IS demonstrating self respect. Have a lovely day!


43 posted on 06/13/2008 9:27:01 AM PDT by HappyinAZ
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To: HappyinAZ

I did not call you names. So don’t lie. You made a personal attack using profanity. I don’t know why you are still here. You shouldn’t be.

I hope your day is a miserable as your personality.


44 posted on 06/13/2008 11:05:39 AM PDT by dforest (I had almost forgotten that McCain is the nominee. Too bad I was reminded.)
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To: indylindy

So not only do you to to bully others with name calling and snide remarks, you then LIE about it. You called me all the names I listed..and have been calling others them as well. Perhaps it’s the only thing you’re good at since real political discussion seems beyond you.

If you can’t take it....don’t dish it out! Have a truely lovely and God filled day!


45 posted on 06/13/2008 11:24:30 AM PDT by HappyinAZ
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To: HappyinAZ

I know you won’t have a God filled day, no one could who uses profanity like a member of DU, so don’t pretend. Others know about you.

Somehow that thread disappeared. It did after I reported abuse. I myself, would have left the thread and pulled you.


46 posted on 06/13/2008 11:33:28 AM PDT by dforest (I had almost forgotten that McCain is the nominee. Too bad I was reminded.)
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To: indylindy

Be careful not to fall off that high and mighty horse of yours....”others” have written me about YOU....they are watching YOU...Have a God filled and blessed day...for God even blesses the asses amoung us. No profanity; just a fact!

If you can’t take it...don’t dish it out!


47 posted on 06/13/2008 11:51:36 AM PDT by HappyinAZ
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To: HappyinAZ

I feel very sorry for you. Your post is a reflection of your problem.

Run along and use your profanities with someone else.

One only needs to check my posting history. They won’t find profanity used on other posters. Even those that I disagree with.


48 posted on 06/13/2008 11:58:50 AM PDT by dforest (I had almost forgotten that McCain is the nominee. Too bad I was reminded.)
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To: Republicanus_Tyrannus
Property owners=taxpayers. The idea that only property owners should have the vote was based on the idea that only the people who paid the taxes should be allowed to elect the people who decided what was done with their tax money. Today, we have welfare recipients voting for the RAT who promises them the most welfare, which is how the RAT party exists.

Calling people royalists and slave owners because they think the people who pay the taxes should have control of their own money just shows your ignorance, and your name-calling and insults just reveals your nasty personality. Try reading a book instead of calling people names.

I'll check back and see what names you call me.

49 posted on 06/13/2008 12:11:24 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: indylindy

You run along and check the definition of profanity. “Ass” and or “jerk” doesn’t fall in that definition!

Like I said...your “posting history” shows that you do a lot of name calling ...and make a lot of snide remarks..about McCain or any poster you disagree with......and when you get it back...you cry like the little baby!

If you can’t take it...don’t dish it out!

Have a lovely and God filled day!


50 posted on 06/13/2008 12:16:09 PM PDT by HappyinAZ
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To: HappyinAZ

Bye


51 posted on 06/13/2008 12:21:14 PM PDT by dforest (I had almost forgotten that McCain is the nominee. Too bad I was reminded.)
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To: Republicanus_Tyrannus
Get the hell out of America, Princess. We kicked your sorry king-worshipping asses out in the 1700's and you have no goddamned place here any more. The last of your kind were whipped in the woodshed by President Jackson when the "landed" neo-aristocrats like yourself were made to spread'em and the anti-American restrictions on the franchise were repealed.

Were you born micro cephalic or did the doctor drop you?

Was JOHN ADAMS a KING WORSHIPPER?.

Normally I don't respond to RETARDS, but since unfortunately your vote counts as much as mine, I thought I might pass along the news that in spite of your PARANOID DELUSION, I have no illusion that the franchise will ever be taken away from simpletons like yourself UNTIL THE REPUBLIC FALLS.

And then maybe in the aftermath the FOUNDING FATHERS ADVICE WILL BE HEEDED .

And whats with your "PRINCESS" fetish, are you light in the loafers?

52 posted on 06/13/2008 2:12:36 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: sergeantdave
After the five Marxists on the SC rule that we have no right to bear arms, Americans will be given the choice to surrender their weapons, get on their knees and be fitted for chains, or open fire.

Would you like that roasted or deep fried? :)

53 posted on 06/26/2008 5:40:26 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Beware the fury of the man that cannot find hope or justice.)
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To: Centurion2000

Are you running around FR with a bag of crows?

Anyway, deep fried, please, with a side of onion rings and a large glass of bourbon, hold the ice.


54 posted on 06/26/2008 6:20:35 PM PDT by sergeantdave (We are entering the Age of the Idiot)
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