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Boumediene-Chief Justice Roberts and Justice Scalia- DISSENT (on Gitmo ruling)
Bench Memos at National Review ^ | 12 June 2008 | Ed Whelan

Posted on 06/12/2008 1:04:44 PM PDT by SE Mom

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And the dissent by Justice Scalia here:

Various excerpts (citations omitted) from Justice Scalia’s dissent (joined by the Chief Justice and Justices Thomas and Alito):

Today, for the first time in our Nation's history, the Court confers a constitutional right to habeas corpus on alien enemies detained abroad by our military forces in the course of an ongoing war…. The writ of habeas corpus does not, and never has, run in favor of aliens abroad; the Suspension Clause thus has no application, and the Court's intervention in this military matter is entirely ultra vires. The game of bait-and-switch that today's opinion plays upon the Nation's Commander in Chief will make the war harder on us. It will almost certainly cause more Americans to be killed. That consequence would be tolerable if necessary to preserve a time-honored legal principle vital to our constitutional Republic. But it is this Court's blatant abandonment of such a principle that produces the decision today. The President relied on our settled precedent in Johnson v. Eisentrager (1950), when he established the prison at Guantanamo Bay for enemy aliens.

[I]n response [to the Court’s 2006 ruling in Hamdan v. Rumsfeld], Congress, at the President's request, quickly enacted the Military Commissions Act, emphatically reasserting that it did not want these prisoners filing habeas petitions. It is therefore clear that Congress and the Executive—both political branches—have determined that limiting the role of civilian courts in adjudicating whether prisoners captured abroad are properly detained is important to success in the war that some 190,000 of our men and women are now fighting…. What competence does the Court have to second-guess the judgment of Congress and the President on such a point? None whatever. But the Court blunders in nonetheless. Henceforth, as today's opinion makes unnervingly clear, how to handle enemy prisoners in this war will ultimately lie with the branch that knows least about the national security concerns that the subject entails.

What drives today's decision is neither the meaning of the Suspension Clause, nor the principles of our precedents, but rather an inflated notion of judicial supremacy. The Court says that if the extraterritorial applicability of the Suspension Clause turned on formal notions of sovereignty, "it would be possible for the political branches to govern without legal constraint" in areas beyond the sovereign territory of the United States. That cannot be, the Court says, because it is the duty of this Court to say what the law is. It would be difficult to imagine a more question-begging analysis.… Our power "to say what the law is" is circumscribed by the limits of our statutorily and constitutionally conferred jurisdiction. And that is precisely the question in these cases: whether the Constitution confers habeas jurisdiction on federal courts to decide petitioners' claims. It is both irrational and arrogant to say that the answer must be yes, because otherwise we would not be supreme.

Putting aside the conclusive precedent of Eisentrager, it is clear that the original understanding of the Suspension Clause was that habeas corpus was not available to aliens abroad, as Judge Randolph's thorough opinion for the court below detailed.… It is entirely clear that, at English common law, the writ of habeas corpus did not extend beyond the sovereign territory of the Crown.

Today the Court warps our Constitution in a way that goes beyond the narrow issue of the reach of the Suspension Clause, invoking judicially brainstormed separation-of-powers principles to establish a manipulable "functional" test for the extraterritorial reach of habeas corpus (and, no doubt, for the extraterritorial reach of other constitutional protections as well). It blatantly misdescribes important precedents, most conspicuously Justice Jackson's opinion for the Court in Johnson v. Eisentrager. It breaks a chain of precedent as old as the common law that prohibits judicial inquiry into detentions of aliens abroad absent statutory authorization. And, most tragically, it sets our military commanders the impossible task of proving to a civilian court, under whatever standards this Court devises in the future, that evidence supports the confinement of each and every enemy prisoner. The Nation will live to regret what the Court has done today.

06/12 02:40 PM

1 posted on 06/12/2008 1:04:44 PM PDT by SE Mom
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To: Bahbah; holdonnow

My mind is simply reeling.


2 posted on 06/12/2008 1:05:55 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom

Rush covered this most of today’s show...many interesting callers, too. Is there anything we can do?


3 posted on 06/12/2008 1:07:49 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: All

Much more for the legal minds at FR here:

http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2008_06_08-2008_06_14.shtml#1213280702


4 posted on 06/12/2008 1:08:16 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Miss Didi; Bahbah

Since I’m NOT a lawyer- I can’t really answer that clearly. My hunch is that another case would have to be heard before the Court that could allow for a new/different interpretation.


5 posted on 06/12/2008 1:10:27 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom
Scalia: The Nation will live to regret what the Court has done today.

The Nation will continue to die its slow, agonizing death as a result of what leftist courts, SCOTUS included, do nearly every day.

6 posted on 06/12/2008 1:13:23 PM PDT by TChris ("if somebody agrees with me 70% of the time, rather than 100%, that doesnÂ’t make him my enemy." -RR)
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To: SE Mom

I like Scalia and Roberts.


7 posted on 06/12/2008 1:14:03 PM PDT by Ptarmigan (Bunnies=Sodomites)
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To: SE Mom

As I said on a different thread, the President should ignore this ridiculous decision. Combatants, even suspected foreign combatants, should have NO access to American courts. None.


8 posted on 06/12/2008 1:14:14 PM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: SE Mom

This is truly appalling: wars run by the Courts!


9 posted on 06/12/2008 1:14:47 PM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately desiring a conservative government.)
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To: Czar

Well- the president can’t ignore it- we have three co-equal branches of government.

There will be repercussions that we can’t even see yet from this ruling.


10 posted on 06/12/2008 1:21:32 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom

Text books need to be rewritten ... or simply tossed. We no longer have three co-equal branches of government. Excuse me, gubmint. This is what a “distributed dictatorship” might look like.


11 posted on 06/12/2008 1:22:11 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Man, that's stupid ... even by congressional standards.)
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To: SE Mom

I can’t even begin to fathom this. These clowns act like they are elected by Democrats! How the heck can they sleep at night?


12 posted on 06/12/2008 1:23:48 PM PDT by benjamin032
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To: SE Mom

The Founders clearly set up the legislature, especially the House of Representatives, as the superior branch of government.

It can restrict what judges may review and impeach those judges that are not performing their duties properly.

In this case, Congress should exert its superior authority and tell the five judges to go to hell. I’d much prefer articles of impeachment be drawn up, followed by swift hanging, but that’s me.

Since that won’t happen, boys and girls, we, the American citizens, are on our own. It is up to us to take back our country. How we do so, history gives numerous examples.


13 posted on 06/12/2008 1:25:37 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Governments hate armed citizens more than armed criminals)
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To: SE Mom
Well- the president can’t ignore it- we have three co-equal branches of government.

The fact that we have three co-equal branches of government means the President can tell the Supreme Court to take a hike.

Remember all the times over the last ten years or so that Congress demanded someone from the Executive branch show up to testify on something, and the Exec refused?

14 posted on 06/12/2008 1:26:07 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

It’s a damn mess, isn’t it?


15 posted on 06/12/2008 1:28:45 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom
The only "Win", in this case would be, if every time an enemy combatant is captured on the battle field (Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.), we send a plane load of US Circuit Judges to the battle field to try them. Let's first start with a 747 load of Justices from the 9th Circus for trial in Kandahar.
16 posted on 06/12/2008 1:31:31 PM PDT by TRY ONE (NUKE the unborn gay whales!)
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To: DuncanWaring

No President has seriously challenged a Supreme Court decision since Abraham Lincoln and that was during a domestic emergency far more severe than the Iraqi war. I am not aware that Congress has ever limited the jurisdiction of Federal courts even though the Constitution gives it that authority. Since the days of John Marshall, the Federal judiciary has asserted its superiority to the other two branches of government, mostly without any challenge. Judicial power must and should be restrained by Congress, even if the Supreme Court and the lower courts were populated with strict constructionists, which of course they are not.


17 posted on 06/12/2008 1:36:57 PM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: Miss Didi

. “Is there anything we can do?”

Yeah, start forming dues-paying, drilling Militias in our home states.


18 posted on 06/12/2008 1:40:16 PM PDT by TalBlack
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To: DuncanWaring

From the AP: Bush disagrees with, will ‘abide by’ court’s Guantanamo ruling


19 posted on 06/12/2008 1:45:14 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: TalBlack

It’s a good thing I am not the President because I would bring the terrorists now in detention to the Supreme Court’s front door and set them free. Let them live with the decision they make.


20 posted on 06/12/2008 1:49:16 PM PDT by Rapscallion (Our tolerance will be our undoing.)
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