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(Arial 9pt)
Posted on 06/12/2008 12:30:50 PM PDT by pissant
Daily Kos has obtained a copy of Obama's "certification of live birth."
All of the information is what we have been told before - name, birth date, etc.. His mother's race is listed as "Caucasian," his father as "African." No middle name of Muhammad, no first name of "Barry," no last name of "Dunham." He's listed as "Barack Hussein Obama II," not "Jr."
(Interestingly, in the lower right hand corner is the backwards reflection of a stamp, "June 6 or G, 2007". Did someone request or process this record about a year ago?)
Site creator Markos Moulitsas mentions in the comments the campaign released it to him.
(Also, for astrologers, the time of birth was 7:24 p.m.)
Next time you get one of those e-mails suggesting Obama has a different "real name," send people to this post or that document.
UPDATE: I'm getting some, "Jim, this looks modern," e-mail messages. As Ed notes,
When someone requests a validated copy of their birth certificate, they don’t get a photocopy of the original. They get a fresh certificate with a seal showing that it came from the official registrar, in most states. They keep the info in a computer and produced validated copies on request.
This is a validated copy of the birth certificate, with which Obama could get a passport, register to vote, etc etc. It’s perfectly acceptable.
Obama himself probably has a dog-eared yellowing copy in a desk drawer somewhere; this document is what he or someone authorized by him was given by the state out of its records. Barring some vast conspiracy within the Hawaii State Department of Health, there is no reason to think his birth certificate would have any different data.
Do they issue ‘non certified’ birth certificates?
Yes. Most old ones were.
That could be the same in Ohio; the folks at the health department knew my sister (there’s a guy that works whose nickname is “Moose”), but they will also send you a form that you can fill out, send back to them with a check and they’ll mail you a copy.
Could it be different in Hawaii though? With so many Asian variations, I wouldn't be surprised if nationalities are used, or even were used back then, instead of the race designations that continental Americans are used to. What race would most Hawaiians have called themselves back then?
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(Arial 9pt)
Why is so much of the paper blank? Where are the mother and fathers dates of birth?
I guess this is the new look certification of live birth, as opposed to a regular birth certificate.
I understand JPG all too well. What I am referring to is that the background lacks artifacts across the board. Where the artifacts STAND OUT is allll around any of the letters. This thing has been tampered with. it is not B. Huseeins’.
Whoa, that is an golden oldie.
We need Buck. Isn’t he our go-to document guy?
I doubt it, but would have to research Hawaii administrative code to find out. When I got a copy of my daughter's birth certificate, you could only get a certified copy, but each state might be different. I kind of think since 9-11, the feds have placed certain requirements concerning the issuance of birth certificates. Without a stamp and signature, there is no reason to believe this is legitimate. But it does look like someone stole a blank sheet and printed stuff on it.
Theoretically, I could create an entire document with any info I choose in photoshop.
For proof that this is a photoshop, see my post at 205 and 207 - these are actual photoshops, done by me just now.
yup, saw that..thanks for the ping to it..
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