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To: cardinal4
McCain was born in the Canal Zone..

Which is American soil.

Now, had McCains mother been out and about in Panama, went into labor, and he was born in a Panamainian hospital instead of on the military base, he would be ineligible to run for President.

25 posted on 06/11/2008 9:26:44 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: Phantom Lord
had McCains mother been out and about in Panama, went into labor, and he was born in a Panamainian hospital instead of on the military base, he would be ineligible to run for President.

All he needed was a certificate from the nearest US Consulate that he was born to TWO United States Citizens and he would still be Native born.

The laws for illegitimate children or children of a single US parent, are different then for those that are born to two US citizens joined in wedlock.

It's a great debate and really eyeopening to those that wish to explore the roots of citizenship.

43 posted on 06/11/2008 9:38:29 AM PDT by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
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To: Phantom Lord
Even if born in Kenya, he qualifites because of his American-citizen mother.

Not true. There are two types of citizens: Natual Born citizens and Naturalized citizens. Naturalized citizens have to go through a process to become citizens, as they begin citizens of someone else. If a married American couple had a child anywhere in the world, either in 1961 or now, that child is, by virtue of BIRTH a citizen of the USA. Thus he is a Natural Born Citizen. If, on the other hand a US Soldier in 1961 knocked up a pretty Saigon hooker that child is NOT, by virtue of birth, a US Citizen. Even if that child became a citizen, it would be via NATURALIZATION and therefore not eligable for POTUS.

Look at it as a two question test:

1. Are you a citizen? Yes - continue No - you can't be POTUS.

2. Were you naturalized? Yes - you can't be POTUS, No - you are eligible.

We know that Barry wasn't naturalized, so he would appear to be eligible. Except, wait a second, is he EVEN A CITIZEN AT ALL?

If that answer to that is no then he probably needs to relinquish his Senate seat as well! That's why we will never see the Birth certificate.

127 posted on 06/11/2008 12:04:14 PM PDT by Jack Black
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