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To: mgc1122
I believe the specific point is that his father was NOT a US Citizen and while his Mom was, at the time, the law required that in order to AUTOMATICALLY qualify for citizenship, the US parent had to be over the age of 21 and his mom was NOT.

This creates a situation where it is possible that Obama was NOT a citizen by fact of birth. Perhaps a citizen later through change of law, but not a “natural born” citizen.

11 posted on 06/10/2008 6:33:50 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: taxcontrol

Good point.


13 posted on 06/10/2008 6:40:41 AM PDT by vox_freedom
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What is really intriguing to me is that it appears there is no technical “application process” to run for President. The Parties can technically nominate anyone they want.

Does that mean anyone could run and it would be up to someone or another party suing to prevent it, and thus laying the burden of proof upon the Plantiff? Let’s say one party was nominating a guy who moved to the USA when he was 2, but no one really knows his story. Arnold in CA is too obvious because he was older and widely known. But if a party nominates the guy, he refuses to “release the BC”..........I dunno...this is all odd.


17 posted on 06/10/2008 6:44:32 AM PDT by Crimson Elephant
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To: taxcontrol

Here is a post from yesterday that shows the law as it was in 1961. It has everything to do with the fact that his Mom had not, and could not have, resided in the US for 5 years after her 16th birthday. She, like so many young women get pregnant at a very young age. She gave birth at 18.

Barack Obama is not legally a U.S. Natural-born citizen according to the law on the books at the time of his birth, which falls between “December 24, 1952 to November 13, 1986? . Presidential office requires a natural-born citizen if the child was not born to two U.S. Citizen parents, which of course is what exempts John McCain though he was born in the Panama Canal. US Law very clearly stipulates: “…If only one parent was a U.S. Citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16.” Barack Obama’s father was not a U.S. Citizen and Obama’s mother was only 18 when Obama was born, which means though she had been a U.S. Citizen for 10 years, (or citizen perhaps because of Hawai’i being a territory) the mother fails the test for being so for at least 5 years **prior to** Barack Obama’s birth, but *after* age 16. It doesn’t matter *after* . In essence, she was not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. Citizenship. At most, there were only 2 years elapsed since his mother turned 16 at the time of Barack Obama’s birth when she was 18 in Hawai’i. His mother would have needed to have been 16+5= 21 years old, at the time of Barack Obama’s birth for him to have been a natural-born citizen. As aformentioned, she was a young college student at the time and was not. Barack Obama was already 3 years old at that time his mother would have needed to have waited to have him as the only U.S. Cizen parent. Obama instead should have been naturalized, but even then, that would still disqualify him from holding the office.

*** Naturalized citizens are ineligible to hold the office of President. *** Though Barack Obama was sent back to Hawaii at age 10, all the other info does not matter because his mother is the one who needed to have been a U.S. Citzen for 10 years prior to his birth on August 4, 1961, with 5 of those years being after age 16. Further, Obama may have had to have remained in the country for some time to protect any citizenship he would have had, rather than living in Indonesia. Now you can see why Obama’s aides stopped his speech about how we technically have more than 50 states, because it would have led to this discovery. This is very clear cut and a blaring violation of U.S. Election law. I think the Gov. Of California would be very insterested in knowing this if Obama were elected President without being a natural-born U.S. Citizen, and it would set precedence. Stay tuned to your TV sets because I suspect some of this information will be leaking through over the next several days…


25 posted on 06/10/2008 6:55:21 AM PDT by WellyP (How much does Huma know?)
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To: taxcontrol
I believe the specific point is that his father was NOT a US Citizen and while his Mom was, at the time, the law required that in order to AUTOMATICALLY qualify for citizenship, the US parent had to be over the age of 21 and his mom was NOT.

So all the babies born to teenage illegal aliens in America are not American citizens? Good luck getting such an argument before a court, let alone approved by a court.

29 posted on 06/10/2008 6:57:21 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: taxcontrol
but not a “natural born” citizen.

OOOoooooooooooooo!!!

76 posted on 06/10/2008 1:03:58 PM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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