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With U.S. in slump, dual citizenship in EU countries attracts Americans
Palm Beach Post ^ | Saturday, June 07, 2008 | ANDREW ABRAMSON

Posted on 06/08/2008 3:25:27 PM PDT by null and void

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To: max americana

Yeah but little cesears is cardboard crap.


41 posted on 06/08/2008 4:15:51 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: null and void

Fine, why the hell don’t these people just go back to those countries and stay and denounce their American citizenship if we are so damned bad.


42 posted on 06/08/2008 4:17:18 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (No matter which one is elected, America may very well never recover from the damage to be done.)
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To: Gay State Conservative
My example was taken from the experience a few years ago of a colleague who holds both US and Italian citizenships. He traveled to Italy and then from Italy to Germany on the Italian passport, rented a car, got into an auto accident and went to the nearest US consulate (I forget in which city) to get their help in straightening out the resulting mess. They looked at his Italian passport (remember, he didn't have his US passport) and they told him to get lost.
43 posted on 06/08/2008 4:18:45 PM PDT by riverdawg
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To: angkor
“... they barely looked at my passport.”

That was my experience as well when I traveled from France (which I entered on my US passport), into Andorra and Spain. Once you are admitted into an EU country on a valid passport, it seems that the borders within the EU disappear even for a non-EU citizen like me. I was disappointed because I wanted an Andorran stamp in my passport!

44 posted on 06/08/2008 4:24:08 PM PDT by riverdawg
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To: riverdawg
They looked at his Italian passport (remember, he didn't have his US passport) and they told him to get lost.

I'll bet that the fact that he didn't have his US passport with him was the problem.Perhaps a US diplomat who didn't want his weekend spoiled used the lack of a passport as an excuse.Also,why would a US diplomat become involved in an issue involving a car accident? A health emergency or an arrest is one thing...but a car accident with a guy who can't prove his US citizenship is another...IMO.

And BTW,did this associate leave his US passport back in the US or did he just fail to bring it to the diplomatic mission on that day? If it's the former,I'll bet he had a problem getting back into the US.

45 posted on 06/08/2008 4:31:38 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Will the dancing Hitlers please wait in the wings? We're only seeing singing Hitlers.)
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To: alecqss
All I can say that for naturalized citizens it's an explicit betrayal of the oath they give when getting naturalized.

Consider that some countries do not recognise any renunciation taken as part of a citizenship oath elsewhere; the UK, for example, says it's the only authority to grant or remove its citizenship and removal of UK citizenship, if I remember right, only follows conviction for treason, which hasn't happened since WW2.

46 posted on 06/08/2008 4:33:21 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: Varda
She found their patriotism attractive.

I've noticed Europeans, especially Germans and ones from Scandinavia, display this when they are amongst Americans, and Americans alone. I'd say this is a thinly-veiled form of envy, not exhibited while they are in the midst of other nationalities.

GE Healthcare has a center in Sweden, where Americans, Germans and the Swedish, end up working together. You can see it all the time, there.

47 posted on 06/08/2008 4:42:27 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: 17th Miss Regt
dual citizenship - American citizens should hold allegiance to one and only one nation - the USA.

Americans with dual citizenship should be asked to declare which one it will be.

48 posted on 06/08/2008 4:49:02 PM PDT by elpadre (nation)
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To: elpadre

I agree, but the Supreme Court says that dual citizenship cannot be prohibited. Perhaps the Congress will change the law and prohibit it. But they would also need to include a proviso in the law that removes the law from the jurisdiction of the courts. Congress almost NEVER uses this power. They prefer to pass laws and then let the courts overrule them. The courts then take the blame.


49 posted on 06/08/2008 4:55:44 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: JoJo Gunn

True. But if someone wants to go over there and live in a place where that can happen, they deserve what they get.


50 posted on 06/08/2008 4:57:36 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Zhang Fei

Of course they are still able to vote as an expat in US national elections via absentee ballet; i.e. the same way you vote when you’re an expat living overseas just for work.

And as far as I know, regardless how long you live overseas you can continue to vote absentee as long as you keep-up your registration in the last place you lived.

So in other words, these people with dual-citizenship can vote in elections for both countries. Think about it....that pretty scary.


51 posted on 06/08/2008 5:03:28 PM PDT by ut1992 (Army Brat)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Yeah but little cesears is cardboard crap.

Word...

52 posted on 06/08/2008 5:15:05 PM PDT by Riodacat (Legum servi sumus ut liberi esse possimus.)
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To: CarrotAndStick

She was in mixed groups. I do know there were Brits, Belgians and French involved. The Europeans wanted to talk politics which she said the American contingent wasn’t interested in.

I have heard Europeans doing as you say. It was Brits though trying to act superior to a group of American high school kids.


53 posted on 06/08/2008 5:20:21 PM PDT by Varda
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To: null and void

Hmmmmmmmmmm....I’m a military brat, born in Germany...I guess that qualifies???


54 posted on 06/08/2008 5:22:19 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Spirochete
"My dad was actually the one who put a bug in my ear about the whole citizenship thing. He said that Europeans are more interested in the quality of life than the quantity, and that it was a good place to have and raise children because of the way their social systems work. I don't care much about the child-rearing part, but I would gladly trade in some of my material possessions for a little flat, a scooter and more vacation."

What, that doesn't sound good to you?

America peaked long ago. As the next generations of uneducated dolts come of age, the country will be truly lost.

55 posted on 06/08/2008 5:25:10 PM PDT by Swordfished
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To: MuttTheHoople
5.5 percent unemployment is debatable. There are multiple Bureau of Labor Statistics unemployment indices, and comparing across countries is comparing apples to oranges. While BLS picks one of the low indices as the officially released unemployment rate, U-6 may be more comparable internationally. Check http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t12.htm where the May 2008 unemployment rate for the USA is 9.4%.
56 posted on 06/08/2008 5:35:16 PM PDT by magooey (stop the bs, fight the war!)
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To: Drango

Jawhol!


57 posted on 06/08/2008 5:41:17 PM PDT by null and void (Bureaucracies are stupid. They grow larger by the square of the population and stupider by its cube.)
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To: magooey
Yep. If you've been out long enough to exhaust your unemployment insurance benefits, you drop off the radar, and are no longer counted as unemployed.

Sort of like how food and fuel costs aren't part of "core inflation"...

58 posted on 06/08/2008 5:44:22 PM PDT by null and void (Bureaucracies are stupid. They grow larger by the square of the population and stupider by its cube.)
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To: Swordfished
Indeed I agree that it is proper in a business sense to sell your labor where it profits you the most. It is a little unfair that Congress lets in tens of thousands of workers on H1B, L1 and other visas, which displaces US citizens from high tech and other employment.

A fair free trade regime would open the doors both ways. From any country where we import labor, we should have a two way agreement so that displaced US citizens can freely move in the opposite direction.

The world is changing rapidly, with traffic jams in bush cities and two story air conditioned shopping malls in third world countries. There are some good countries out there, but you have to be careful choosing.

Why Congress treats US labor as a captive market while treating non-citizen labor as a free market deserves some examination. If you can utilize a citizenship angle to maximize the return on your intellectual capital, more power to you!.

59 posted on 06/08/2008 5:46:02 PM PDT by magooey (stop the bs, fight the war!)
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To: null and void
Sort of like how food and fuel costs aren't part of "core inflation"...

That's interesting. Where can the "non core" inflation rate be found?

60 posted on 06/08/2008 5:48:53 PM PDT by magooey (stop the bs, fight the war!)
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