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Euthanasia tourists snap up pet shop drug in Mexico
Christian Today ^ | 6/6/08 | Christian Today

Posted on 06/08/2008 11:49:59 AM PDT by wagglebee

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To: wagglebee

How stupid are these people. Don’t they know they could save a bundle in airfare and travel costs by staying home, having a few drinks and a sedative or two and going nighty-night in the running family car while parked in the garage? Anyone that wants to kill themselves need not campaign for this kind of crap. There are many easy ways of doing the job. This article is just disinformation in the same way that dope smokers tout the lack of ‘medical’ marijuana or that hemp production is the answer to America’s prayers for all the sailing, rope and paper needs that go begging.

Sheesh!


21 posted on 06/08/2008 1:44:23 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Don't cheer for Obama too hard - the krinton syndicate is moving back into the WH.)
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To: Alright_on_the_LeftCoast

Why should so-called moral pushers decide for me whether I should live in pain or die quickly.
I have a right to decide that, not you.

Wait until you moral pushers need help and your laying there in pain.
You people make me sick.


22 posted on 06/08/2008 2:00:16 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U
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To: wagglebee
pentobarbital ... is tightly restricted to veterinarians.

Are they breaking the law when bringing their purchase into the U.S.?

24 posted on 06/08/2008 2:31:30 PM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: sionnsar

I would certainly think so.


25 posted on 06/08/2008 2:32:23 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: weegee
We are born with a total loss of dignity; naked, cold, wet, crying, incompetent and incontinent.

And cute.

Don't forget cute.

26 posted on 06/08/2008 2:37:50 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: wagglebee
"We have a moral right to a peaceful death."

Indeed we do. It's a right I claim. How I die is between me and my God, my spouse and to some extent my doctor. The state, church, the courts and busy-body FReepers have no say in the matter.

27 posted on 06/08/2008 2:44:34 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: sionnsar

Not with a Dr’s RX... good luck getting that!


28 posted on 06/08/2008 2:45:17 PM PDT by JDoutrider (No 2nd Amendment... Know Tyranny)
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To: wagglebee

And with open borders they won’t have to sneak into Mexico but will soon be able to buy it here in the US.


29 posted on 06/08/2008 3:04:08 PM PDT by E. Cartman (Just say "No" to mug-whores.)
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To: seowulf
My real problem comes when somebody tries to lure medical professionals into helping them commit suicide. “Helping” someone commit suicide is in fact homicide. It is a very dangerous precedent.

This is absurd.

If people have a right to somehting, it shouldn't be a crime to help a disabled person exercise that right.

And as for the contention that helping someone is the same as doing something oneself, I should start calling my friend "Doctor," as she helped a disabled student earn his degree.

30 posted on 06/08/2008 4:05:33 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: count-your-change
The next step is you have a moral obligation to accept a peaceful death, and no one has to get your permission first.

Yeah...give people the right to free speech, and next thing you know, you'll have an obligation to speak.

Or right to keep and bear arms...and they'll MAKE you do it.

Or right to vote and it will become compulsory.

Or right to assemble, and they'll make you go to rallies.

Or right to worship, and you'll be forced to go to church.

Heck, it's only a matter of time. Look at how half the state of Oregon has been killed off since they partially recognized a right to die.

</sarc>

Tell ya what... rather than focusing on reinforcing a police state where people have no right to die, why not focus on respecting a person's right to self-determination? That way, no matter how things break down, the slippery slope would slope against people forcing things against your will!

Oh, but let me guess...you don't really care about people's individual preferences and rights...you care more about controlling them, right?

31 posted on 06/08/2008 4:12:52 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: buck jarret; wagglebee
This is about suicide, not euthanasia.

Well, it is about euthanasia when any assistance is given, such as an organization facilitating travel to the pharmacy and the pharmacist supplying the drug with a reasonable suspicion of how it will be used.

And the poster of the thread and I believe suicide is against God's will as well. If one wants to convert finite earthly suffering into the infinite suffering of the afterlife, be my guest.

32 posted on 06/08/2008 4:18:37 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture™)
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To: steve86

Some have written that in Biblical times there were no ventilators or feeding tubes to keep people alive (actually feeding tubes have been used for hundreds of years, but have become far more effective for long-term use with advances in plastics). But it is also true that there were no antibiotics or aspirin then either and very few people seem to object to these. But most importantly, there have been amazing advances in palliative pain treatment in the past few decades; pain is a factor in many terminal illnesses, but it can be managed.


33 posted on 06/08/2008 4:26:22 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Gondring

Let’s say you wanted to drive over a cliff but you didn’t know how to drive. So, I put you in the passenger seat, rig up a stick on the gas pedal and bungy cord on the steering wheel, point to the cliff and send you on your way.

Whether you like the word or not, I just committed homicide.


34 posted on 06/08/2008 4:30:44 PM PDT by seowulf
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To: wagglebee

I don’t think anyone has a moral or religious obligation to prolong their life as long as possible.

Obviously suicide among younger people with no health problems is something which must be prevented.

If and when my death becomes inevitable and life holds no more joy or hope, ending it on my terms doesn’t seem unreasonable to me.

Jesus Himself came to this earth to be murdered, right? He knew full well what would happen before He came here.

That was Suicide by Cop, right?


35 posted on 06/08/2008 4:38:44 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: steve86

Everyone has the right to commit suicide, even if it is a selfish act. I would only consider doing so if I had nothing to lose and no one to leave behind. I would define euthanasia more narrowly. Selling a potentially fatal drug does not mean very much since many drugs are potentially fatal under certain circumstances. Taking someone to a pharmacy to buy such a drug is also not euthanasia. Administering the drug is euthanasia.


36 posted on 06/08/2008 4:44:58 PM PDT by buck jarret
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To: Gondring
“Tell ya what... rather than focusing on reinforcing a police state where people have no right to die..”
Do tell! In police states people have no right to die? Then I wonder why so many do.
First you do not understand the concept of “rights” at all. “Rights” are not something one human can confer on another, privileges are. The framers of the U.S. Constitution said it was “self-evident” that the Creator had endowed humans with certain rights not the government.
So where does a “right” to suicide come from? The state of Oregon?
Where are my jack-boots and cudgel? I've rights to deny and self determination to crush. AHHHAHAHAHAH!
37 posted on 06/08/2008 5:38:10 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: wagglebee
pain is a factor in many terminal illnesses, but it can be managed.

sometimes

38 posted on 06/08/2008 5:45:24 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: buck jarret
This is about suicide, not euthanasia.

Don't bother with the facts. Bearing false witness is so much more fun.

Almost as much fun as watching suffering people have to continue suffering.

:-(

39 posted on 06/08/2008 5:51:14 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: wagglebee
....pain is a factor in many terminal illnesses, but it can be managed.

After watching both my father and brother die of cancer I could not agree with you less.

40 posted on 06/08/2008 6:09:22 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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