Democrats in rural strongholds refuse to give backing to Obama (White Racism)

Guardian (UK) ^ | June 8, 2008 | Paul Harris

[Eurale]

Johnny Telvor was not happy about Barack Obama becoming the Democratic presidential nominee. Not happy at all. Standing outside the sturdy courthouse in the sweltering heat of a West Virginia afternoon in the small town of Williamson, Telvor smoked a cigarette and bluntly gave his opinion of Obama's historic mission to be America's first black president. 'We'll end up slaves. We'll be made slaves just like they was once slaves,' he said. Telvor, a white Democrat who supported Hillary Clinton in West Virginia's primary, said he planned to vote for Republican John McCain in November. 'At least he's an American,' he added with a disarmingly friendly smile.

[rock_lobsta]

Obama's historic mission to be America's first black president.

Isn't he a little late for that?

[Earthdweller]

"But the uglier truth is that part of white America remains secretly - or sometimes openly - deeply distrustful of the idea of a black president."

Part of a basic truth here in America is being missed. This fear or distrust is being called racist...but it is actually a fear of the tilted system leaving them behind in the dust. The legal system here is prejudice against them. True some of them are racist but most are just fighting for survival on the ground. They are fighting for their jobs and their families.

Most of us here worked hard in school or our businesses in our younger years to provide for our families and had good fortune as a result. These guys didn't do so well for whatever reason, immaturity or maybe a lack of IQ. But whatever the reason they are correct to assume that no one is looking out for them from either party. The minorities have the Dems wrapped up and the Blue dogs have nothing but the false promises left to look forward to. I try to put myself in their shoes. What would I do if I found myself in a low paying job and had to be a slave boy to minorities who play the race card to an employer and a judge at every turn?

Yes there is still racism in America...but is it what it used to be?

[pepperhead]

Let’s see Barack Obama attended a racist black church for years and the people that don’t want to vote for him are racist? He also has terrorist as friends, wants to gut our military and has the most liberal voting record in the senate. If the war wasn’t so damn unpopular Obama would lose in a landslide.

[kitkat]

It isn’t race most Americans are concerned about—it’s QUALITY. And that’s something Obama doesn’t have.

[samtheman]

This article needed a barf alert.

Not really. You see the word "Guardian" and you know it's 100% mega-barfable. It really goes without saying.

[randita]

They just cannot get it into their minds that southern Repubs are about where southern Dems were in earlier generations

Not entirely. Southern Democrats, such as Al Gore, Sr. were supporters of Jim Crow. I imagine that's what this man is referring to. He's in a time warp.

[Republicanus_Tyrannus]

You responded with saying “Not everyone should be allowed to vote. “

You seem to forget that Socialism = Slavery.

That’s what he was on about - Obama is a socialist, and he and his allies are out to enslave the People. All of them.

All Socialists are slavers. And for them your comment is true- the ones who should not be allowed to vote are the ones whose platform is for enslavement. Such as National Socialists (Nazis), International Socialists (Communists), Monarchists, and others hostile to our Constitutional Republic.

[Bob]

But the uglier truth is that part of white America remains secretly - or sometimes openly - deeply distrustful of the idea of a black president.

We are deeply distrustful of a black president who is a Marxist Democrat

Well, this 'typical white person' can think of quite a few black people that I would very happy to vote for. None of them, though, are considered 'authentic' blacks since they're all conservatives.

[big'ol_freeper]

Nope. Everyone missed my point (evidently my fault). I agree Socialism = Slavery. Idiot is upset because Obama is the nominee but as a demoncrat has been perfectly happy voting for the other socialists that would (and have tried to) implement the same agenda. Hence, he’s an idiot as are all people who vote to give away their liberty.

[Oldexpat]

Some fear inner city riots of Osbama losses at the polls, I fear inner city riots if Osbama wins. After all..this is the king of all playoffs and superbowls.

[ought-six]

“The Progessive/Liberal/Socialists are gonna waaaay overplay the race card this election.”

And their water carriers in the MSM will bury it so no one notices.

[Earthdweller]

Hence, he’s an idiot as are all people who vote to give away their liberty.

Like everyone who is desperate or fighting for survival, they tinker with making deals with the devil and sometimes sell their souls and future generations out to get by for today. My guess, most don't have any flipping idea that there is a long range commie/Dem agenda to enslave all of us. In fact, pubs call other pubs out on that one, calling it conspiracy theory.

One thing is certain, the MSM will make sure the public remains dumb and on slow cook until every last one of us are ruled by a few, minorities and all.

Do you really think these guys are thinking all this through or even have the time to figure it out?

They vote Dem for purely selfish reasons and don't see (or maybe don't care) about the long term effect.

[Maverick68]

I would love to see inner-city riots if Obama loses. It’s time to stop fooling ourselves. There are people out there who hate the American way of life, and burning down Detroit, Chicago, etc. because you don’t like the outcome of a fair election would expose these idiots for what they really are. Burn, baby, burn.....

[ought-six]

The author of the article, a Brit, pretty much states that it’s about time America performs a mea culpa for once being a slave-owning country, and elect a black man.

Well, Britain enslaved one hell of a lot more people than the United States ever did, and for a much longer period. And those slaves came in all colors. So, where is the first black Prime Minister of the UK? Where is the first Indian (as in the sub-continent) Prime Minister of the UK? Where is the first Pacific Islander Prime Minister of the UK? Where is the first native-born Irish Prime Minister of the UK?

Britain, thy name is hypocrisy.

[Earthdweller]

Ouch! That one will leave a mark. Well done!

[ought-six]

“We are deeply distrustful of a black president who is a Marxist Democrat.”

Exactly. If Thomas Sowell ran for president, I’d happily vote for him.

[Zionist Conspirator]

Let me put in my two-cents' worth on this issue.

First, I despise Obama. I will not vote for him. And I may not vote for McCain (he's going to have to have a really good running mate for one thing). Second, I have been a frequent and loud critic of the Black community on this forum--for its political alliances (homosexuals, atheists, evolutionists, etc.). Issues such as welfare and affirmative action don't set my blood boiling like they do some people. I'm sorry, but they don't. So in my frequent tirades against the Sharptons and Jacksons on this forum I have consistently aimed at their moral positions/alliances and have, to the best of my knowledge, never used the terms "poverty pimp" or "race hustler."

HOWEVER--all that being said, I am afraid I must agree that there is in America among my own group (the poor whites I usually defend on this forum) a prejudice against Blacks that has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with that community's political alliances but is based on race and race alone. It is something from another time, it has lasted for four hundred years, and there appears to be no end in sight. It used to bother me, and it still does, but I new regard it as ineradicable.

I'm not happy about reporting this. I wish it weren't so. I hate it. But it's the truth. Despite the fact that they've lived here together for going on four hundred years, speak the same language (in practically the same dialect), profess the same religion (in fact, the same form of the same religion), and are intimately familiar with each other, they seem to hate each other like poison. I would understand this if it were based on contemporary Black political alliances. But it is not.

Again, I do not usually post such a message as this. I am an adamant defender of poor rural Southern Fundamentalist whites. And I most certainly point out the hypocrisy of those who excuse prejudice in one group while condemning it in another (not to mention the maddening fact that the same things which liberals regard as "charming" in Blacks [ignorance, poverty, a thick accent, authoritarian religion] is considered monstrous in poor whites). But I do not sweep the situation under the rug either. It's a %&*#$ shame that the two oldest and most similar population groups in the country seem to be such implacable, eternal enemies to each other. But that seems to be the case.

At the same time, as a Civil War Republican, I must observe that the fact that these particular poor whites think Hillary Clinton is their friend and that the only reason they're going Republican is the color of their party's nominee's skin simply confirms to me my own lifelong prejudice against "yellow dog Democrats." Screw 'em.

[Tzimisce]

Yeah, we all know how those damn white people prejudge everyone....

[Spok]

Whether Obama wins or loses it will be because of the color of his skin, not due to racism, but because it’s all he is.

[Eurale]

I don’t believe that for most people it’s ingrained racism. Many blacks have marginalized themselves and now expect whites to pay for their obvious indiscretions. Moreover, many whites have experienced their hateful separatist behaviors. I have been taunted many times. I’ve been made to walk around them because they will not move (except for their own).

Now, throw in black on white crimes, entitlement socialism, separatist TV programming, the media’s warped characterization of black life, advertising that depicts blacks as superior and whites as stupid and weak, rap and hip-hop music, diversity brainwashing, burning and looting, dropout rates, the one way street of “tolerance”, felony violent crimes (all categories) and the fact that the Dems have played them like a Stradivarius for decades. I don’t paint all blacks with that paintbrush, but I’m not blind either.