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Top 2 Air Force Officials to Resign
FOX News ^ | June 5, 2008

Posted on 06/05/2008 10:44:45 AM PDT by Kaslin

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Defense Secretary Gates has publicly identified a number of problems recently with the Air Force, including last year's accidental flight of nuclear weapons on a B-52 bomber, and Moseley's ties to contract problems over the Air Force Thunderbird air show. He was later exonerated by Wynne, according to an April report by the Reuters news agency.

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21 posted on 06/05/2008 11:06:05 AM PDT by Kaslin (Because the DemocRats lied and abetted the enemy, thousands died)
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To: af_vet_rr

Check AF Times site....the base IG at Nellis said seven contracts violated the law...from Jun 2003 to December 2005 (almost three years ago that the last occurred). $50 million in contract costs involved. In one case....the folks involved were rigging the entire deal for fair competition by sliding the money to their favorite vendor....through an Alaska Native Corporation. For those who haven’t observed this Alaska Native game....there are a couple of these...”funnels”....which are rigged up for DOD, Homeland Security, and NGA. The government rigged up the game so it looks like the Indians are running the corporations...but they really aren’t, and then some of these Air Force managers think that they can use the Alaska Native “funnel” to help unfairly arrange contracts to special friends. There are millions which run this way every month....all perfectly legal....and created by our friends in Alaska (Senator Ted Stevens), who is currently is under investigation for his own problems.


22 posted on 06/05/2008 11:09:02 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: pepperdog

ping


23 posted on 06/05/2008 11:09:57 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: Cicero

Q: What’s the difference between the Air Force and the Coast Guard?

A: The Coast Guard supports DoD in time of war...


24 posted on 06/05/2008 11:11:12 AM PDT by redlegplanner
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To: pepsionice

That’s a lot deeper than initially reported. Sounds like these guys had any number of things to be fired over.


25 posted on 06/05/2008 11:12:07 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: CougarGA7
Wait a minute. They are resigning because they signed a contract for the Thunderbirds to fly nukes over Iran? Now I’m confused.

In B-52's.

In Thunderbird formation performing Thundebird acrobatics.

You shoulda seen it! :-)

26 posted on 06/05/2008 11:17:51 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: af_vet_rr

You think it’s about the Thunderbirds?

Nah. I would spell the issue “N-U-K-E-S”


27 posted on 06/05/2008 11:20:40 AM PDT by PurpleMan
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To: af_vet_rr

Bet a cold adult beverage that the real reason is the same one that got SecArmy canned a few years ago: going behind OSD’s back to lobby Congress for more stuff. (Crusader for the Army, F22s for the Air Force)


28 posted on 06/05/2008 11:25:48 AM PDT by redlegplanner
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To: Polybius
In B-52's

How did they even get them off the ground?


29 posted on 06/05/2008 11:26:20 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (Wisdom comes with age, but sometimes age comes alone.)
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To: af_vet_rr
Too bad. I was hoping it was a resignation against a decision they didn't support.

Being asked to resign at that level is the equivalent of being asked to leave Hell's Kitchen.

30 posted on 06/05/2008 11:28:34 AM PDT by AU72
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To: pepsionice

The ol’ 8A racket....


31 posted on 06/05/2008 11:31:11 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Play that Funky Music Typical White Boy!)
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To: Kaslin
This could be the administration lining up the ducks for taking care of Iran.
32 posted on 06/05/2008 11:31:53 AM PDT by Track9 (What would happen if Israel took out Iran before November?)
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To: pepsionice
The government rigged up the game so it looks like the Indians are running the corporations...but they really aren’t, and then some of these Air Force managers think that they can use the Alaska Native “funnel” to help unfairly arrange contracts to special friends.

They had a similar problem about 15 years ago, only with minority owned companies. Congress passed a law giving minority owned businesses an advantage in government contracts. Some companies grabbed street people and made them CEOs of front companies just to get the contracts. Sixty Minutes did a segment on it.

33 posted on 06/05/2008 11:35:56 AM PDT by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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To: marlon

Gates thought Airforce was/were/is underutilizing their drone capability and were basically not doing enough for the soldiers and marines in Iraq. And almost anyone who looks into the matter will very likely agree with Gates.

The Airforce wants $400,000,000.00 flying Barbaros and winged Big Browns for their future mythic “Knight of the Sky” Heros. The Airforce wants to re-fight World War II, and keeps buying better fighters and bombers to re-win that war.


34 posted on 06/05/2008 11:36:46 AM PDT by flowerplough ("articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy")
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To: redlegplanner

LOL. That’s the best one I’ve heard in a while.


35 posted on 06/05/2008 11:36:54 AM PDT by manapua
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To: hc87

“Due to the fiasco at Minot AFB?”

Minot was the straw that broke the camel’s back. This has been a long time in coming, with lots of prior skirmishes... USAF’s attempt to hog all UCAV’s, the dispute over F-22 numbers, shipping the nuke detonators to Taiwan. But the big elephant in the room has been USAF’s insistence on focusing on Russia and China instead of the current wars. Gates all but accused on blue general officer of insubordination on the issue. There’s rumors that applause could be heard from the other three branches in the Pentagon today.


36 posted on 06/05/2008 11:38:55 AM PDT by DesScorp
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To: AU72
If it's about Iran, the Thunderbird imbroglio would be a good cover story.

If it's about Iran, why do they need a cover story?

37 posted on 06/05/2008 11:42:56 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: redlegplanner

As I recall, GEN Shinseki was canned because he publicly disagreed with Rumsfeld on the number of troops to use to take, hold, and pacify Iraq.

Looks like Shinseki was right, too. Oops.


38 posted on 06/05/2008 11:46:12 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (Personal Methane Reclamation: Break wind for energy independence!)
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To: PurpleMan

People were already canned over the Minot nuke problems (although apparently the problems persist - the same wing just failed another inspection, that included SPs who didn’t know their areas of responsibility or who were distracting themselves with video games on their cell phones).


39 posted on 06/05/2008 11:51:20 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: pepsionice
And before the 8a set asides for Natives, it was blacks, women, disabled vets, and on and on.

For example, TRACOR-Flight Systems was notorious for using ‘finger puppets’ to land massive contracts in the early 80s. Most defense contracts have done this.

Nothing new.

Except the corrupt brass is finally getting their hands slapped. (forced retirement with full bennis is not punishment)

40 posted on 06/05/2008 11:58:59 AM PDT by ASOC
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