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Cost of Polygamist Case Tops $7 Million
CNN via AOLNews ^ | 6-4-08 | Ashley Broughton

Posted on 06/04/2008 4:25:34 PM PDT by FreeInWV

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To: Saundra Duffy

I am shocked about that. Shocked, I tell you!

saracasm/off


41 posted on 06/05/2008 7:55:21 AM PDT by Old Mountain man (Official FR PITA)
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To: patton
“Abuse of Discretion”, leveled against a Judge, is pretty darn serious.

I think that she will retire. The retirement package for Judges is very nice.

I would love to see charges brought against the Judge and the CPS, but I know how the system works. If anything, the CPS will get a bigger budget next year, so that they can prevent something like this from ever occurring again.

42 posted on 06/05/2008 8:38:36 AM PDT by LeGrande
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To: mouser

Some of those were probably teenage boys whose exact ages were not known when the samples were taken. Plus a handful who turned 18 while in foster care. I know at least 2 boys turned 18 while in foster care, and last I read, they’d both elected to stay in state care even after being told they were free to leave since they’d become adults (I assume they are no longer in state care, now that all the children in foster homes have left).


43 posted on 06/05/2008 8:39:39 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: mouser

The number 8 came from the people collecting the DNA. That was the number of men who showed up within the first week or so. That was not the purported number who showed up by the time they quit taking sammples. I had never seen the final number before.
36 means there were 50 or so who didn’t show up for DNA testing. Now I wonder why that is.


44 posted on 06/05/2008 8:45:45 AM PDT by JRochelle (Keep sweet means shut up and take it.)
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To: LeGrande; colorcountry

Lets not forget that colorcountry is/was Mormon.

Its polite to ping the freeper when you speak of them.


45 posted on 06/05/2008 8:50:43 AM PDT by JRochelle (Keep sweet means shut up and take it.)
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To: LeGrande; Alice in Wonderland

I am not a Baptist, although I have nothing against Baptist.

Are you lying for the Lord again, Legrande? I don’t thing you have a modicum of truthfulness in you, athiest. And why would you?


46 posted on 06/05/2008 8:55:02 AM PDT by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Saundra Duffy

Well at least the kids weren’t waterboarded, I guess.


47 posted on 06/05/2008 8:57:41 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: JRochelle
Lets not forget that colorcountry is/was Mormon.

Yeah I have seen where colorcountry has claimed to be a Mormon when it suits her purposes. I have also seen her post pictures of her Baptist Grandkids and talk about attending a Baptist Church.

48 posted on 06/05/2008 9:08:15 AM PDT by LeGrande
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To: colorcountry
I am not a Baptist, although I have nothing against Baptist.

Nah, you just post pictures of your Baptist Grandkids and attend a Baptist Church. You have also claimed to be a Mormon too, I guess your religion depends on which day of the week it is.

Are you lying for the Lord again, Legrande? I don’t thing you have a modicum of truthfulness in you, athiest. And why would you?

Are you denying attending a Baptist Church? LOL

49 posted on 06/05/2008 9:12:42 AM PDT by LeGrande
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To: LeGrande
Nah, you just post pictures of your Baptist Grandkids and attend a Baptist Church. You have also claimed to be a Mormon too, I guess your religion depends on which day of the week it is.

LOL. Two of my grandkids are Mormon. One has no religion, and two are Catholic. and YES I am denying that I attend a Baptist Church. Never have I said that I am a Baptist, however I have attended services in a Baptist Church, I have attended Vigil at a Catholic Church, I have attended services at an Assembly of God Church, and several different Non-Denominational Churches.

You are either lying about me, or mistaken. Since you freely whisper behind my back, I'll let the reader make the decision as to your possible motivation.

50 posted on 06/05/2008 9:18:11 AM PDT by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: colorcountry
LOL. Two of my grandkids are Mormon. One has no religion, and two are Catholic. and YES I am denying that I attend a Baptist Church. Never have I said that I am a Baptist, however I have attended services in a Baptist Church, I have attended Vigil at a Catholic Church, I have attended services at an Assembly of God Church, and several different Non-Denominational Churches.

Then what religion are you colorcountry? Or do you just pick and choose based on which way the wind is blowing?

51 posted on 06/05/2008 9:28:59 AM PDT by LeGrande
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To: LeGrande

I am a Christian, and I belong to no denomination. ...Except that Mormons think I am one of them for some reason. They seem to have reached some sort of road-block on their way to removing me from their rolls.


52 posted on 06/05/2008 9:31:14 AM PDT by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: LeGrande; Saundra Duffy
The majority of the anti Mormon Cabal members here on FR are Baptists or Born Againers.

But, why? I'm not familiar with the teachings of either church.

Usually, I stay away from the religious forums. I became interested in the FLDS story and began to notice the animosity, especially in Saundra Duffy's posts, for example:

"I want to know if this judge is a Baptist. The reason I’m asking is because they used Baptist buses to cart away the children and Baptists volunteered to care for “the children” after they were rounded up at gunpoint. Furthermore, I want to know how many of the law enforcement thugs who went in there were Baptists . . . thinking they are doing God a great big favor!"

Personally, I thought it was very nice for the Baptist church to offer its buses on a school day when school buses were transporting school children, but some took that as offensive. Why?

53 posted on 06/05/2008 9:37:24 AM PDT by Alice in Wonderland (4-Hshootingsports.org)
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To: patton

Order for DNA Parentage Testing

http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/news/FLDS/


54 posted on 06/05/2008 9:42:25 AM PDT by Alice in Wonderland (4-Hshootingsports.org)
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To: Alice in Wonderland

I think you missed the point that Huckabee was seen as stirring the pot against the Mormons for political purposes, when he made comments against the FLDS. Many of the anti-FLDS posters were former Hucksters, or were influenced by the Hucksters.


55 posted on 06/05/2008 9:43:06 AM PDT by Eva (CHANGE- the post modern euphemism mafor Marxist revolution.)
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To: Alice in Wonderland

The court order for DNA testing is not at your link.

However, it does include a snippet, saying that all children have now been picked up, and I thank you for providing that.

I was waiting to see if any went unclaimed, because it would have been strong evidence that some parents, as has been claimed, are not actually related to their supposed children.

It seems that didn’t happen.

But I didn’t know if it would, so I was curious to see what would happen.


56 posted on 06/05/2008 9:53:49 AM PDT by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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To: Alice in Wonderland; Saundra Duffy
Personally, I thought it was very nice for the Baptist church to offer its buses on a school day when school buses were transporting school children, but some took that as offensive. Why?

Hmm, lets change the wording a little : )

"Personally, I thought it was very nice for the Baptist church to offer its buses to transport Jews to be gassed on a school day when school buses were transporting school children, but some took that as offensive. Why?"

It all depends on your point of view. If you think that taking the children away from their parents was a good thing then yes the Baptists did a good humane thing. If you think that taking Children away from their parents is an evil and vile thing to do then anyone who aids them is doing an evil and vile thing too. Now is it clear?

57 posted on 06/05/2008 10:12:17 AM PDT by LeGrande
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To: patton

Yes, it is. On the side bar, under Court Documents.

Court Documents

Affidavit in Support of Original Petition for Protection of a Child
Affidavit for Search and Arrest Warrant
Order for Investigation of Child Abuse
Order Authorizing Appointment of a Court Appointed Special Advocate
State’s Motion to Transfer Seized Property (1)
State’s Motion to Transfer Seized Property (2)
Court Order Removing Cell Phones
Order for DNA Parentage Testing
Order on Placement of Children
Petition for Protection of Children in an Emergency
Bishop’s Record listing families of the YFZ Ranch
Order Appointing Special Prosecutor
Copy of the CPS service plan that was handed out to the FLDS Members. Document courtesy of Deseret Morning News
Mandamus Decision ruling CPS did not have right to remove children from YFZ ranch
Summary of the Mandamus Decision ruling CPS did not have right to remove children from YFZ ranch
Texas State Supreme Court Petition for Writ of Mandamus
Texas State Supreme Court Motion for Emergency Relief
Response to Motion for Emergency Relief
Copy of the search warrant for Warren Jeffs DNA


58 posted on 06/05/2008 10:12:38 AM PDT by Alice in Wonderland (4-Hshootingsports.org)
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To: LeGrande
Why are you changing the wording of my question, instead of answering it?

Some posters here would have rather seen the children chained to each other and marched into town rather then get on a Baptist bus. Why is that?

59 posted on 06/05/2008 10:28:53 AM PDT by Alice in Wonderland (4-Hshootingsports.org)
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To: Alice in Wonderland
Thank you now I got it. Order for DNA Testing Might be admissible after all, I don't know.
60 posted on 06/05/2008 10:29:39 AM PDT by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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