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1 posted on 06/04/2008 5:10:52 AM PDT by Renfield
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How much are the 500,000 union dead (nearly all white) worth?


2 posted on 06/04/2008 5:12:45 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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We will now see the fruit of affirmative action, where one advances solely on the basis of skin color, not merit.

We will see that victory built on anything less than virtue leads to self-destruction.

We will see that, self-proclaimed victims, once they have collected on spoils of victimhood, become arrogant oppressors themselves -- the very things they claim to have been oppressed by.

We'll see it all.

Obama has to be President. Not because he's fit, but because he's black...enough.

3 posted on 06/04/2008 5:13:21 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Obama's a front man. Who's behind him?)
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So is MCcain for or against the ‘R’ word?


4 posted on 06/04/2008 5:16:34 AM PDT by period end of story (Goodness inside)
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Welfare on a grand scale. I refuse to take responsibility for something that happened 200 years ago and for something that African Kings promoted.


6 posted on 06/04/2008 5:19:14 AM PDT by RC2
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If, heaven forbid, something happens to Obama, he will be declared a risen god. Greater than JFK. Greater than RFK. Greater than MLK. He will be the great promise that was snatched away from us. It will affect an entire generation of voters.

And perhaps Hillary will be elected. And she will easily implement all the policies which BHO would have given us -- which will look stunningly like her own policies, but that's beside the point.

We always have a lot of talk abotu arkancide and whatnot. But it suddenly struck me how truly awful for our country it would be if Obama were to die. His death would be infinitely worse than his presidency.

7 posted on 06/04/2008 5:20:32 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Et si omnes ego non)
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What do you get if your black ancestors were not in America during slavery?

What do you get if you're a black/white mix...like... Obama?

Why should I have to pay for something that my ancestors did not participate in? (they were all in Italy at the time)

And my last question: Do you think a huge reparations payout would create more or less racism in America? Gee, I wonder...

10 posted on 06/04/2008 5:23:41 AM PDT by Free Bee
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Not to brag, but I’ve was posting ideas about this months ago. Nice of know Lee Cary reads stuf here. :~)


11 posted on 06/04/2008 5:24:27 AM PDT by PurpleMan
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Repreations will not be paid to blacks at all. It will be money paid to Obama and others.


20 posted on 06/04/2008 5:37:58 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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The ancestors of most white Americans lived for centuries in a degree of poverty far worse than what is seen in American urban ghettoes. People died like flies on projects like the Erie Canal. Whites died like flies in the Civil War. Walk through a Colonial-era cemetery, and you will learn of the appalling child mortality among whites in those days. All over New England, people cleared mountainsides by hand and dragged huge boulders into stone walls. None of those whites lived by the labor of blacks, nor did they enjoy any kind of wealth.

There is no line between what Obama and his mentors want, and what Mugabe has achieved in Zimbabwe. We are looking at the imminent destruction of Western civilization.

21 posted on 06/04/2008 5:38:23 AM PDT by hellbender
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Blatent reparations (payments to blacks for being black) will probably never happen because they will always be in the minority and the majority of the rest will not feel responsible enough. One could argue that reparations in the form of improving infrastructure and schools in minority areas is a rolling process that has been going on since the 60s. The effect of this is questionable. In the 80s, Kansas City made a massive investment in school infrastructure (mostly benefiting Blacks), but it had no measurable impact on achievement.

What many minorities fail to realize is that attitude is everything. If your attitude is that the world owes me a living, then you have no shot at catching up—only the race hustlers will benefit.


23 posted on 06/04/2008 5:42:29 AM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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Regarding Randall Robinson's complaints about South Carolina's schools and urban schools in general ---> Why didn't Robinson and other highly educated Blacks go into teaching instead of using their talents to join the ranks of chronic complainers who do NOTHING to improve the Black experience???

Obama will NOT get away with this type of BS.

And, for the record, America does NOT owe reparations to descendants of slaves or the hangers on who pretend to be descendants of slaves.

Furthermore, American citizens are NOT responsible for people who have for centuries been unable to pull themselves up by their boot straps and work for a living.

25 posted on 06/04/2008 5:43:32 AM PDT by xtinct (I was the next door neighbor kid's imaginary friend.)
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I will agree to reparations when I can get a refund with interest for Great Grand Pappys field help. I still have the receipts if it helps.
26 posted on 06/04/2008 5:43:45 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (")
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I’m still waiting for Hussein to be asked on national TV for his stance on reparations. Has he ever been asked?


27 posted on 06/04/2008 5:44:09 AM PDT by capydick ("History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid".)
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civil-rights activist

I love how this moron and also the MSM(wait, is that the same thing?) use these terms "civil-rights" and "activist" without question and act as if that makes anything and everything these people push or harp about as altruistic and morally sound. Just what exactly is an "activist" anyway?

28 posted on 06/04/2008 5:44:19 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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He's a Harvard-educated lawyer, author, and civil-rights activist born in 1941.

Can't we get an 'earmark' to pump out that septic tank that is Harvard? Its beginning to stink!

30 posted on 06/04/2008 5:52:54 AM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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Here in New York, we pay $14,000 per year, per student, for education, (I believe it is the highest per capital spending in the world) so that half of the students can fail.


35 posted on 06/04/2008 6:10:42 AM PDT by PGR88
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A large segment of Pflager'speech last week was dedicated to reparations, though that part wasn't shown or even discussed in most forums. I ran across this larger video somewhere on YouTube. It's pretty shocking.
37 posted on 06/04/2008 6:16:57 AM PDT by angkor
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As I read the article my blood began to boil. My three children are white as are my parents and grandparents and their grandparents. I look at my kids and see an evil is designed for them based on their skin color and I don't like it.

Then I realized that programs and money diverted to blacks will only cause them to trust in government instead of God. It's another dirty government trick to enslave black people to the government dole when so many are beginning to escape based on hard work and their own merit. These are the things that set blacks back. When 270 million American see 30 million getting special treatment based on race, how can they respect any accomplishment they make?

Treat each man as a man and that is it. Hard work trumps all government subsidies. Trust the Gospel for your welfare and safety and not politicians.

38 posted on 06/04/2008 6:25:34 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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Concerning reparations what many Freepers have to remember is that most leftists believe in the zero-sum paradigm: we’re rich because we took wealth from other peoples around the world. I know it’s a crazy theory, but many leftists passionately believe it (just go to DummyUnderground the last place I heard this imbecilic nonsense). So redistributing all our “ill-gotten” gains is justified in their minds because we took it from them in the first place.


40 posted on 06/04/2008 6:54:52 AM PDT by driftless2
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Is Egypt going to pay reparations to the Jews and other slaves?

These demands are made of us because America is made of people who are decent and good and try to discern and do the right thing. No matter what we do, though, it will never be enough. And it will result in failure, followed by more demands.

The average black American can no more identify with the slavery of his ancestors than I can with the hardscrabble life of my forebears in the old country. And when my great grandparents came to America in the 1900s, they were considered not white and had to work menial and dangerous sweatshop and manual labor jobs. I have no silver spoon to extract from my mouth and pawn to pay these supposed dues.

We have tried to bring the American way of life to other countries to help them prosper and been called imperialists and oppressors for it. They want to hold on to their cultures but reap the benefits of ours.

This isn't about reparations, it is about revenge. BHO and his handlers want to turn America into the world's plantation with white America as its state-owned slaves. Maybe Obama should ask Charlie Manson to be his VP. Isn't this what his Helter Skelter was all about?

41 posted on 06/04/2008 7:49:15 AM PDT by informavoracious (Freedom Isn't Free)
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