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A Disaster, Getting Worse
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives2/2008/06/020675.php ^

Posted on 06/03/2008 11:03:39 PM PDT by newbie2008

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We wrote here about the economic disaster that goes by the name Lieberman-Warner, the carbon cap-and-trade system now being considered by the Senate. We posted a diagram created by the Chamber of Commerce that exposed the ludicrous complexity and intrusiveness of the proposal.

The bill, as amended by Barbara Boxer, has now gotten even worse. Boxer's amendment adds more than 300 regulations and mandates. The Chamber has accordingly prepared another version of their chart that reflects Boxer's changes. It is a remarkable document; click to enlarge:

This morning, four Republican Senators held a press conference on Lieberman-Warner. Jim Inhofe of Oklahoma:

[T]his would be the largest single tax increase in the history of the country. This is the -- using their own figures, it would be $6.7 trillion, with a maximum giving back over the life of this bill of $2.5 trillion. That leaves $4.2 trillion dollars.

Kit Bond of Missouri:

According to EPA, under Lieberman-Warner, the average household power bills rise 44 percent by 2030. They lose $4,377 to higher energy prices and pay $1.40 more for gas by 2050.

I, like Senator McConnell, toured my state this past week talking about energy. And you know something?

When I told my Missouri constituents that the Senate this week would not be talking about moving a bill to open up the massive oil and gas supplies that we have in America to lower prices, that this body would be considering a bill to add huge price increases to all energy, they could not believe it.

What is the Senate doing? That's a good question, because these higher U.S. energy prices would drive energy-intensive manufacturing jobs overseas to foreign countries with cheaper energy prices. Manufacturing workers are already suffering.

We've seen half of U.S. fertilizer industry leave the country. Chemical companies and plastic companies are leaving the U.S. Just recently, Dow announced it was thinking of selling its plastic business because firms in Asia and the Middle East have access to cheaper energy.

Adding to this misery, manufacturers estimate this bill will cost my state of Missouri over 76,000 jobs and cut between 3 million and 4 million jobs nationwide by 2030.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: 110th; johnwarner; lieberman; liebermanwarner
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1 posted on 06/03/2008 11:03:39 PM PDT by newbie2008
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To: newbie2008; CygnusXI; Fiddlstix; Timeout; Entrepreneur; Defendingliberty; WL-law; ...
 



Calculate your one-day Carbon Belch !

2 posted on 06/03/2008 11:09:32 PM PDT by steelyourfaith
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To: newbie2008

This thing is a monster of economic destruction and ever expanding governmental intrusion. Really, words completely fail me.

Not content to steal by gaming the system they control, not content to exert power over every aspect of our lives, our representatives are now apparently engaged in what can only be called a war against the people and the economic health of this country.

The outcry and furor induced by the first McCain amnesty bill is forgotten. It is going to be brought back and another attempt to force amnesty down our throats is coming. Personally, I do not recall such a grass roots, visceral reaction to that proposed bill across the electorate since the 60’s in the reaction to VietNam. I am just talking about the reaction.

We are constantly told that we get the representation we deserve, but honestly, I wonder if the electorate who is generally busy providing for families, has the available energy to fight these insane proposals as they are brought up. And you know, with either of the creeps we have on the presidential menu, there will be more and more of this dangerous nonsense foisted upon us as time goes on, since IMO we can pretty much count on a Dem Congress.

Discouraging, to me. Perhaps we will come to feel like the white farmers in Zimbabwe. I hope I am overdramatizing it.


3 posted on 06/03/2008 11:22:18 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder ()OK. We're still working on your ones.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

bump.


4 posted on 06/03/2008 11:30:18 PM PDT by lesser_satan (Cthulu '08! Why vote for the lesser evil?)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
This thing is a monster of economic destruction and ever expanding governmental intrusion. Really, words completely fail me.

America is asleep.

5 posted on 06/03/2008 11:31:40 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
We are constantly told that we get the representation we deserve, but honestly, I wonder if the electorate who is generally busy providing for families, has the available energy to fight these insane proposals as they are brought up.

At some point, the bureaucrats and legislators will press the wrong button at the wrong time and really piss off the electorate. I just hope that point isn't past the point of no return.

6 posted on 06/03/2008 11:36:58 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (History is a story written by the finger of God. — C.S. Lewis)
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To: newbie2008
The dim bulbs in the Senate had better listen to Senator Inhofe. He knows what he's talking about!

Six years ago, our domestic oil situation was so dismal that my husband retired from a job he loved to draw Social Security. He went back to work four years ago because he knew our country needed every drop of domestic oil that could be scrounged. It seems only he, and his fellow workers, are the ONLY ones concerned. The Senate certainly can't be bothered! /Sarcasm

Surely, if the people of California understand Boxer is responsible for this debacle, they will hold her responsible. These idiots want the American public to think they have absolutely no fault in the gas price problem. However, they, in fact, are the problem!

Talk it up, people, the only way we can work our way out of this mess is to develop our own oil resources, something the “tree huggers” can't stand to even think about. We MUST have domestic oil OR face the Middle East meddling in our foreign policy forever!

7 posted on 06/03/2008 11:39:37 PM PDT by singfreedom
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To: newbie2008

Pick up the phone, call your two Senators, and let them have it.

Mine heard from me Monday afternoon.


8 posted on 06/03/2008 11:48:00 PM PDT by exit82 (People get the government they deserve. And they are about to get it--in spades.)
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To: rabscuttle385

This outrageous gas price crisis may be the hot button. I know people who have had to quit their jobs because they can’t afford to drive!! This is terrible for families who live paycheck to paycheck and those on fixed incomes.

To think the brain dead dummies in the Senate would make life even more difficult for these people is unconscionable.


9 posted on 06/03/2008 11:59:59 PM PDT by singfreedom
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To: exit82
Jim Inhofe and Dr. Coburn are my Senators and I think they comprehend the situation, but I wish some of the jerks would take my calls. They only want to hear from their “constituents”, though.
10 posted on 06/04/2008 12:05:19 AM PDT by singfreedom
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To: newbie2008
"Spider pig, spider pig
Does whatever a spider pig does..."


11 posted on 06/04/2008 12:12:15 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
You aren't.

VERY well said, and FReegards!

12 posted on 06/04/2008 12:13:07 AM PDT by SAJ
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To: singfreedom
The citizens -- in broad -- of California holding someone ''responsible''?

Have you looked at the election returns in that state recently? You've just GOT to be kidding.

Look up the lyrics to the old hobo song, ''The Big Rock-Candy Mountain''. Expresses the attitude of the majority of modern-day Calbanians perfectly...well, except for the bit about the ''cigarette trees''.

13 posted on 06/04/2008 12:16:20 AM PDT by SAJ
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To: newbie2008

They have gone absolutely crazy up there.


14 posted on 06/04/2008 12:20:34 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Pride in the USA; Stillwaters

ping!


15 posted on 06/04/2008 12:22:04 AM PDT by lonevoice (John McCain was a Kinoki foot pad in the Reagan Revolution)
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To: singfreedom
We MUST have domestic oil OR face the Middle East meddling in our foreign policy forever!

How much Domestic oil do you think is out there? An infinite amount? Would be highly unlikely given the finite borders.

Would love to understand your logic given you used the term "forever".

16 posted on 06/04/2008 12:40:52 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (Bomb Liechtenstein!)
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To: newbie2008

Thanks John McCain...Ugh...Dang Global Warming garbage.


17 posted on 06/04/2008 1:08:18 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: newbie2008

It’s over. There is no turning back. Make preparations for your family and livelihood. Best.


18 posted on 06/04/2008 2:05:49 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (In perpetuum sacramentum (An Oath is Forever))
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To: A Navy Vet
Anyone see a good reason around here why intentionally slowing down the economy might cause serious US fiscal problems ?


19 posted on 06/04/2008 3:21:37 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: dr_lew
America is asleep.

Asleep? No. Transfixed by politicians and quest for any kind of fame. Americans have been duped into believing that these people on television know what they are talking about.

We ARE doomed.

20 posted on 06/04/2008 3:48:20 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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