Posted on 06/03/2008 6:33:07 PM PDT by anymouse
I want cheap lawyers so I can sue liberals.
I want more offshored legal jobs!
Too late. It's already happening.
And while we’re at it. Can we offshore Congress. I want cheaper government!
“Many, many engineering jobs in America require a US clearance...”
Many many positions requiring cleared people are currently filled by non or naturalized citizens.
Yep, and opportunity to talk to F. Lee Sanjuba Visweswaran. ;-)
“Can we offshore Congress. I want cheaper government!”
Wouldn’t make a difference. Our Congress is already massively influenced by offshore contacts. Its our money, knowledge, and power they want. They won’t stop until its all gone.
They simply don’t have the skills. Working with physical objects is very different from working with abstract code, and they are not that way inclined. Of course, they can do well on written tests, but you want guys who had 500 tools and could take apart cars by the time they were 12.
The Chinese would be more suitable, except for the language barrier.
Are people finally waking up?
Will they address this in an intelligent and competitive matter, taking Indian competition head on, or go the ostrich-syndrome way or just disengage, blame and "take our marbles home"?
This future situation of what America faces worldwide, like it or not, should be a top issue in the presidential campaign between McCain, Obama, Barr and Baldwin.
I for one would like to hear some thoughts on it and strategies.
Good thinking.
Yep, this fall I will be quiting my engineering job to back to graduate school in a health profession. Its a shame too, I just graduated two years ago as a BSME and BSEE but working as an engineer just wasn’t rewarding.
And professional licenses...
That’s not true. Since 911, It takes at least a year and a half to get a Top secret clearance, people with clearances now are hot commodities. Many projects can only be done by US citizens. There is a vacuum right now in power engineering. A lot of engineers are either retiring or going into management. The A/E I work for is having trouble finding mechanical and structural engineers.
As someone who got his PE in 1975 and who has been back to WA DC to lobby legislators on the crisis in engineering education and US R&D policy, I would appreciate a few insights.
Could you share with me what you mean by not rewarding?
What part of health care do you feel will be more rewarding? Thank you.
Unless they have gotten a lot smarter than the camel jock engineering students that I went to school with back in the 60’s, it ain’t happening.
Many Indian “programmers” cannot program their way out of a paper bag. I’m sure those from the better schools aren’t good, but don’t confuse quantity with quality. We see many Indians at our graduate program—their ability is binary: either very good or very bad. Even those who are very good analytically tend to be poor programmers. Also, they often copy off each other (blatently so) and rip off whole pages from online sources for papers (without reference). The latter is funny because its so easy to spot the sections where the English goes from marginal to perfect.
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Many Indian “programmers” cannot program their way out of a paper bag. I’m sure those from the better schools are good, but don’t confuse quantity with quality. We see many Indians at our graduate program—their ability is binary: either very good or very bad. Even those who are very good analytically tend to be poor programmers. Also, they often copy off each other (blatently so) and rip off whole pages from online sources for papers (without reference). The latter is funny because its so easy to spot the sections where the English goes from marginal to perfect.
I’ve heard jokes about India having the “Ing” title (like Spanish speaking countries) for Engineers. Like a Doctor. It’s prestigious.
And they even give that wonderful title to the guy who fixes the toaster, who is an engineer in a village where most cannot read.
I believe the outsourcing to India because they have so many “good engineers” is for ONE basic reason:
The Indian engineers will work for about 1/3 of what American engineers will work for. The experience I have had working with Indian engineers is that you can’t understand anything they are saying and their work leaves a LOT to be desired. A 10-15 year engineer from India performs at about an entry-level US guy.
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