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Obama: I have a deep faith (2004 story about Obama, how often he attends Trinity and Father Pfleger)
sun times ^ | 4/5/2004 | cathleen falsani

Posted on 05/30/2008 6:28:29 AM PDT by milwguy

Barack Obama is alone on this Saturday afternoon in the city, his press secretary nowhere in sight. He's not carrying anything with him. Not even notes.

Yet he appears confident as he answers questions about his spiritual life, a subject that would make many politicians -- on or off the campaign trail -- more skittish than a long-tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs.

Still, Obama is unapologetic in saying he has a "personal relationship with Jesus Christ." As a sign of that relationship, he says, he walked down the aisle of Chicago's Trinity United Church of Christ in response to the Rev. Jeremiah Wright's altar call one Sunday morning about 16 years ago

These days, he says, he attends the 11 a.m. Sunday service at Trinity in the Brainerd neighborhood every week -- or at least as many weeks as he is able. His pastor, Wright, has become a close confidant.

Friends and advisers, such as the Rev. Michael Pfleger, pastor of St. Sabina Roman Catholic Church in the Auburn- Gresham community on the South Side, who has known Obama for the better part of 20 years, help him keep that compass set, he says.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: faith; obama; obamaandgod; pastoreruptions; pfleger; religiousleft; tucc; vanillaice
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So in Obama's own words. Father Pfleger helps him "KEEP THAT COMPASS SET". Is their ANY DOUBT that Obama believes the stuff the Rev Wright and Father Pfleger have been spewing from their respective pulpits the last 20 years? It would take MORE than a 'willing suspension of disblief' to think that was not the case.
1 posted on 05/30/2008 6:28:30 AM PDT by milwguy
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I just find that the D-rat’s nominee chaos so completely appropriate for the idiot party of traitors. With the success in WOT/Iraq and the almost inevitable nomination of the most unelectable candidate in the history of US presidential races to be justice for these tools of the left. Let’s just hope that BO gets the nod, his destruction is just starting to calvacade to the bottom!


2 posted on 05/30/2008 6:34:16 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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Nice work, milwguy!


3 posted on 05/30/2008 6:34:19 AM PDT by Eurale
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To: milwguy

Welcome to the Obama Show:

Rev. Wright = MO (the mean one)
Rev. Pfleger = CURLY (the dumb one)
Obama = LARRY (the one who stands by and watches the other two)


4 posted on 05/30/2008 6:34:30 AM PDT by PGR88
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"Obama is unapologetic in saying he has a "personal relationship with Jesus Christ."

Sure he does. Would that be Prophet Jesus? Or Jesus, the Son of God? A very important question considering the number of Muslim church members that belong to that church of hate.

5 posted on 05/30/2008 6:36:07 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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The Obama galaxy :

racism, antisemitism, anti-white, marxism :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueI-vlcaqGY


6 posted on 05/30/2008 6:37:07 AM PDT by drzz
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To: Nathan Zachary

“I believe that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people.”

Funny.
Jesus [the Savior] said there was only ONE path.


7 posted on 05/30/2008 6:38:23 AM PDT by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent......)
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To: milwguy

Nice find.


8 posted on 05/30/2008 6:38:33 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (El Conservo Tribe, tribal name "Avoids Fort Marcy Park". We are so screwed.)
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Posted this on another thread. Fits here too:

Father Pfleger is a Catholic priest, if you can believe it, in the Chicago archdiocese. He is well known as a political activist who preaches (notice I am not saying he gives sermons, he preaches) his political baloney in a southside of Chicago black Catholic church. Cardinal George in Chicago, is afraid of Pfleger. He won’t get rid of him, even though Pfleger’s “Catholic” church services are anything but Catholic. They are the same kind of cr*p that Rev. Wright spiels forth with. Father Pfleger wears Black African vestments at his services, just like Rev. Wright does. The services sound like those given at Wright’s church, not a Catholic church. Pfleger is a political troublemaker and always has been.

Cardinal George won’t do anything about this clown, as he knows (because Pfleger has intimated as much) that the whole congregation at Pfleger’s church would go on strike, or riot, or worse, if Pfleger was removed from his church. Priests are supposed to be rotated periodically from where they are at to another parish somewhere else. A couple of years ago, a rotation took place where Pfleger was supposed to be one of the priests moved elsewhere as it was his time to be moved (in fact long overdue). Also up for a move was a very popular priest at a predominantly white southside of Chicago Catholic church, one of the few where the Tridentine Mass is given, primarily by this popular priest. The parishioners protested and petitioned the Cardinal to allow this popular priest to remain at the church, rather than remove him elsewhere. Guess who got moved elsewhere, and who didn’t. That’s right. The popular priest at the Tridentine Mass church was moved elsewhere, while Father Pfleger was allowed to stay at his black southside church where he remains to this very day. The cowardly Cardinal won’t touch him for “political”, not religious, reasons. A friend of mine goes to the church that has the Tridentine Mass, and she says the parishioners there are furious at the inequity of Pfleger staying, and their priest having to go. It didn’t sit well at all.

Pfleger fancies himself a black man, not a white one. He talks black. He dresses in African style black vestments at services. He is filled with white guilt. He is, in my opinion, mentally sick. As Michael Savage says, liberalism is a mental disease. Pfleger fits that image to a tee. My guess is that Pfleger, who has an enormous ego, IMHO, wanted a piece of the national limelight, and his desire for media exposure outweighed the damage he had to have known he would be serving up to Obama. He wants a piece of the publicity. Pfleger has been a friend of Obama’s, and has advised him politically and worked on Obama’s campaign. Pfleger is also good friends with Louis Farrakhan. There is a cabal of hypocritical elitist verging on commie, definitely socialist liberals that infest the southside of Chicago, predominantly in the Hyde Park area (near the University of Chicago). Obama is one of them, don’t be fooled otherwise. His friends and associates are all from that same cesspool.

I retired recently from the Univ. of Illinois at Chicago (not the same as the U. of Chicago) which is where William Ayers (the terrorist) ia currently a Professor. UIC has a large auditorium called the Pavilion, which is where Louis Farrakhan gives his big sermons, speeches, whatever you want to call them, at. Right down the street a bit and around the corner from the building I worked in. These are huge events where primarily southside Blacks and the occasional white liberals (many from the two southside universities aforementioned) attend.

Pfleger has allegedly threatened to take his parishioners and go elsewhere on the off chance that the Cardinal and the Chicago diocese would ever work up the nerve to clip Pfleger’s wings. Maybe he is setting himself up for that possibility and becoming the eventual leader of a new church ala Rev. Wright’s. My hope is that someday Cardinal George will finally actually do something about this miscreant and send him to a parish in a small rural town in central Illinois. Would serve him right and get rid of his troublemaking self. Although I am sure Pfleger would quit the Catholic church if it tried to move him, amidst much inner city turmoil, and start his own black liberation theology church, taking with him his parishioners from the faux Catholic church he now preaches in. I am really disappointed with Cardinal George and his totally wimpy copout when it comes to “Father Phleger” and his seeming inability to deal with the now beoming infamous priest. And Cardinal George is the President of the U.S. Catholic Bishop’s Council for about a year or so now. He’s not showing leadership when it comes to Pfleger though. He’s afraid of potential controversy and inner city Blacks turning on him and the Catholic church if he pulls the rug out from under Pfleger. And so the beat goes on.


9 posted on 05/30/2008 6:39:43 AM PDT by flaglady47 (Hey Obama, to quote your Preacher man, your "chickens have come home to roost")
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Apparently, Senator Obama has been unable to hear what Jesus has to say about letting the “littlest ones” come to Him. He is the MOST liberal pro-abort candidate to come down the pike.


10 posted on 05/30/2008 6:40:25 AM PDT by SumProVita ("Cogito ergo sum pro vita." .....updated Descartes)
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"I became much more familiar with the ongoing tradition of the historic black church and its importance in the community. And the power of that culture to give people strength in very difficult circumstances, and the power of that church to give people courage against great odds. And it moved me deeply."
11 posted on 05/30/2008 6:45:59 AM PDT by jennyjenny
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Still, Obama is unapologetic in saying he has a "personal relationship with Jesus Christ." As a sign of that relationship, he says, he walked down the aisle of Chicago's Trinity United Church of Christ in response to the Rev. Jeremiah Wright's altar call one Sunday morning about 16 years ago.

Altar

He didn't say what type of altar was installed at Trinity did he?

12 posted on 05/30/2008 6:47:11 AM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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Rev. Michael Pfleger next shtick - Jolson's Mammy


13 posted on 05/30/2008 6:48:49 AM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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“Still, Obama is unapologetic in saying he has a “personal relationship with Jesus Christ.””

Even liberals don’t believe this statement.


14 posted on 05/30/2008 6:50:10 AM PDT by ryan71 (Typical bitter white gun toter)
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To: PGR88

Instead of “Moe, Larry, Cheese!”

“Moe, Larry, Appease!”


15 posted on 05/30/2008 6:51:00 AM PDT by vietvet67
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To: Salamander
“Funny.
Jesus [the Savior] said there was only ONE path.”

Every time this guy claims to be a Christian he says something profoundly un-Christian in the next breath.

16 posted on 05/30/2008 6:53:56 AM PDT by ryan71 (Typical bitter white gun toter)
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To: Salamander

Straight and Narrow


17 posted on 05/30/2008 6:56:57 AM PDT by BARLF
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To: milwguy

"Father Pfleger is stealing my gig!"

18 posted on 05/30/2008 6:57:57 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (Do not run from the Republican Party. Take it back!)
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I read the article and, once again, I’m left frustrated as to what Obama means when he says he’s “a Christian”....or he “has a personal relationship with Christ”.

Apparently, in his book and in the book of too many others, supporting liberal social programs is “Christian”. It’s not even apparent that they think one has to believe in Christ the Savior in order to be “a Christian”.

But the most maddening part is the reporter’s failure to challenge him on theological questions. She seems to be as clueless as he is.

Then there’s the lies he tells in this article about his mother. In his autobiography he specifically says his mother taught him that religion is like superstition. None are real. I could go on, but I’m so damn frustrated by the media’s total inability to cover this from a theological angle. Apparently the new “religion” is to believe in nothing, no faith is better than the other, God is whatever you want him to be. As long as you support “social justice” and liberal welfare you’re a “good Christian”.


19 posted on 05/30/2008 6:59:11 AM PDT by Timeout
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Hope people are listening when he does.


20 posted on 05/30/2008 7:01:05 AM PDT by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent......)
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