Posted on 05/30/2008 5:24:29 AM PDT by marktwain
I'm sorry this lady's husband was slaughtered like a helpless sheep. Too bad he wasn't armed.
It's good to have a home boy as governor.
Go Bucks!
The Other Paper: when liberal daily rags just aren’t leftist enough.
They’ve been spewing their special brand of Marxism-lite for years now with a special, erm, eye on the buggery crowd.
That's because you're ignorant and irrelevant, beyotch!
“the elitist union leaders at the Fraternal Order of Police.”
“Police” are political animals owing alligiance to big city Marxists.
I’m in favor of disbanding all “police” organizations and absorbing the rank and file into elected county sheriff organizations.
That way people, through the direct ballot, control law enforcement, and the concept of the “peace officer” will return. Money for peace officers will go toward reducing crime, instead of enhancing revenue by nabbing citizens for offending some state edict or carrying out leftist political operations.
The Gun is Civilization
by Marko Kloos of the
Munchkin Wrangler blog
Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under threat of force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories, without exception. Reason or force, that’s it.
In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact through persuasion. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.
When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or employment of force.
The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal footing with a 19-year old gang banger, and a single guy on equal footing with a carload of drunk guys with baseball bats. The gun removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between a potential attacker and a defender.
There are plenty of people who consider the gun as the source of bad force equations. These are the people who think that we’d be more civilized if all guns were removed from society, because a firearm makes it easier for a [armed] mugger to do his job. That, of course, is only true if the mugger’s potential victims are mostly disarmed either by choice or by legislative fiat—it has no validity when most of a mugger’s potential marks are armed.
People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the young, the strong, and the many, and that’s the exact opposite of a civilized society. A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful living in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly.
Then there’s the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is fallacious in several ways. Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser.
People who think that fists, bats, sticks, or stones don’t constitute lethal force watch too much TV, where people take beatings and come out of it with a bloody lip at worst. The fact that the gun makes lethal force easier works solely in favor of the weaker defender, not the stronger attacker. If both are armed, the field is level.
The gun is the only weapon that’s as lethal in the hands of an octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weight lifter. It simply wouldn’t work as well as a force equalizer if it wasn’t both lethal and easily employable.
When I carry a gun, I don’t do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I’m looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don’t carry it because I’m afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn’t limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force. It removes force from the equation...and that’s why carrying a gun is a civilized act.
So the greatest civilization is one where all citizens are equally armed and can only be persuaded, never forced.
Lady, was you husband killed by the presence of too many,
or TOO FEW
guns in the hands of law abiding citizens.
“Has it become elitist to support firearms restrictions?”————————————
The answer is of course: No, it *always* has been elitist to support firearms restrictions.
She is looking at the world through the wrong end of her binoculars. Toby should have put a pistol in her husband's hands, so that he could have defended himself.
It might as well be elitest - it’s always been anti-constitutional!
Huh? Isn't 'gun violence' already illegal?
I have posted some of the information from the link below it:
http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/article2664.html
The Joyce Foundation is known for giving millions and millions of dollars to left-wing causes like gun control over the years. In 2000, Toby Hoover dipped her hand into the honey pot, and she’s been making big withdrawals ever since.
From the Joyce Foundation website’s Gun Grants page:
2000: Under the name Toledo Metropolitan Mission, Hoover got a $33,200 grant.
2001: Under the names Toledo Metropolitan Mission (Toledo Ecumenical Area Ministries), Hoover got a $250,000 grant for two years.
2003: Under the name Ohio Coalition Against Gun Violence. Hoover got a $150,000 grant for 21 months.
2004: Under the name Ohio Coalition Against Gun Violence. Hoover got a $200,000 grant for 2 years.
$633,200, and that is just from the Joyce Foundation. Hoover’s IRS records also show she received $79,202 undisclosed non-cash contributions in the past two years alone (these could be contributions from other non-profit entities, or from private individuals - itemization is not required unless the amount is greater than $4400). Nearly three-quarters of one million dollars have flowed into this anti-gun organization in just four years, yet after passage of Ohio's concealed carry reform law, the liberal media tried to make the case that money bought the law.
That is so true.
On a personal note: I was in a meeting with Governor Strickland's wife, Frances, last week. She is his advocate on many social issues in the state. She was open to frank dialogue. One council member ripped into interventionists in state government, trying to wrest local control county and township officials. I am in a wait and see mode on which issues we can work with the Governor. That is more than I can say for the previous two administrations.
The link on http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/article2664.html doesn’t work. So, I dug this one up if anyone is looking for more details about the Joyce Foundation.
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